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Automotive News & Views Are automobiles a major cause of global warming?
6840 messages, Last post on Nov 25, 2009 at 2:33 PM
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jul 12, 2009 5:56 pm) Heck no. Nor would I expect them to properly manage the extra money that Cap and Trade brings in. It would be squandered much the same as your regular taxes are now. The only thing I expect from politicians is that they get out of my way so that I can create wealth and happiness. "...You might say there are too many animals at the watering hole..." Good analogy. What happens to an animal at that watering hole that steps aside and lets the others drink? She dies of thirst and so do her offspring. Nature and nations are alike. The world is not a Disney film even if we wish it was. 
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 12, 2009 5:16 am) "The Black Helicopters are coming !!!!" "Global governance" of pollution is a GOOD idea, not a bad one. Getting all the countries to reduce their pollution and waste can NEVER be painted as a bad thing. No one is talking about "global governance" as in "one WORLD government which controls all the countries in every facet" - that is idiotic and impossible and not anything anyone needs to waste time worrying about, much less waste server space on Edmunds talking about.
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Replying to: larsb (Jul 13, 2009 9:11 am) "We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent." Criminal heir James Warburg, while speaking before the United States Senate, February 17, 1950
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 13, 2009 9:15 am) I'm not saying it could work, given all the cooperation problems. But if it COULD work, it's not a bad idea. As far as "One World Government": about as likely as aliens taking over the planet. |
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Replying to: larsb (Jul 13, 2009 9:16 am) Globalized economics is the first step towards one world government. The EU is a small scale experiment in one world government - and there now some nations there are panicking and changing their structures to ward off a loss of sovereignty caused by recent EU power grabs. It will be attempted more in the future
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 13, 2009 9:22 am) 
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Replying to: larsb (Jul 13, 2009 9:16 am) Cap n Trade will run even more businesses out of the US into the arms of China. Al Gore does not give a hoot. He has a mansion, jet and 100' house boat with a $100 million for fuel. He is not trying to run a business with a bunch of leeches telling him his toilets are not up to code or he has to completely revamp his factory to meet the new tougher regulations. Sounds good unless you were one of the people working there when he says screw it, I cannot afford to do business in the USA. That is just one aspect of why the whole climate bill is bad for America. If you have a global governing body. They can dictate anything they like which makes it a one World Government. We have Friends in Greece in the Government. They are trying to rid themselves of the Euro and all the crap the EU is trying to pull.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 13, 2009 10:46 am)  I'll see your Kyoto and raise you Montreal. (I'll believe one world government when I see California simply put together a budget).
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 13, 2009 12:27 pm) Actually it is a model.... OVERSPEND OVERSPEND OVERSPEND...under deliver.... |
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 13, 2009 12:27 pm) Same goes for all these CC ideas. In the USA they will be attacking the tax payers standard of living and I don't think they will keep voting someone in that wants to take away their cars and comfortable homes. If people think their civil liberties are trounced on by the Patriot Act, they are in for one rude awakening if Cap N Trade gets a foot hold. We are already seeing the effects of CA mandates on power. Higher utility bills with mandatory cut backs in usage. Usage over 354 KWH per month are doubled then over 460 KWH per month are quadrupled in price. According to the SDG&E bill I am holding in my hand, I am using 40.4% less this year than last. That is only because it is so much cooler this year than last. Yet the CC Wonks won't accept they are full of you know what with their hockey stick data. I know what I would do with that hockey stick if I had Al Gore here. |
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