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6790 messages, Last post on Nov 23, 2009 at 7:44 PM
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 09, 2009 1:49 pm) 
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 09, 2009 3:33 pm) And you have to wonder how cheap the new coal plants will be to build once a carbon tax is in place.
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 09, 2009 5:00 pm) The only ones that matter are the ones who have successfully gotten in the way !! So no, I am not talking about ALL.... ..."And you have to wonder how cheap the new coal plants will be to build once a carbon tax is in place. "... Right and how much C02 will the wind and solar farms save that were NOT built !!?? As I have said all along ( this is a graphic demonstration that) the first and foremost priority has been to increase the cost (per measured unit) of power !! CO2 discharge has always been a myth.
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 09, 2009 5:39 pm) Well, that idea has been out there as a conservation measure and as a way to wean the US off of foreign oil. Is a Higher Gasoline Tax Good Or Bad For America? GM is going  btw. (link)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 09, 2009 5:46 pm) Oh yes and they need to spend hundreds of millions to change the logo !!!! As you can tell, it is being run better already !! 
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 09, 2009 5:00 pm) There is a new developing technology that uses pure oxygen rather than just normal air to burn coal. It produces virtually 0 harmful emissions and is supposed to be perfect for coal fired generating plants. Many current plants could be retrofitted. With about 500 years worth of coal within our borders this is great news...but I can already hear the wind and solar activists screaming that we will use up all the oxygen. |
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Replying to: houdini1 (Jul 10, 2009 7:41 pm) New York Governor Encourages Unique Clean Coal Plant (Environment News Service) Cleaner burning is good. Doesn't address all the mining impacts though.
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 10, 2009 10:01 pm) >>>> ...and the source of the purified oxygen for that matter...
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 10, 2009 10:01 pm) Nothing that I know of just magically appears out of thin air. There are always compromises. The idea for our energy needs has to be a balance between cost, efficiency, and environmental friendliness. If we truly want to stop financing our enemies with oil money, clean coal is our only practical answer. |
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Replying to: houdini1 (Jul 11, 2009 3:59 am) We have the coal. We should use it in a responsible way. If we need more, they can drain Lake Powell and use the 1000 year supply covered with water. When someone comes up with a practical 24/7 power source phase out fossil fuel generation. If we do start using electric vehicles solar will be pretty much useless charging your car overnight. Both wind and solar are VERY limited as to where they will produce adequate energy to be practical. In spite of the hoopla surrounding them. So far most of our local projects for wind and solar have been shot down by several well meaning groups. We need more electricity or a massive war to eliminate a lot of users. 
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