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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jul 08, 2009 6:02 pm) And TOTALLY allowed and approved by the Kyoto protocols, not signed by the US under the GWB administration. |
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jul 08, 2009 6:02 pm) "This study tells us that CO2 was not the main trigger, though our data continues to suggest that greenhouse gases and global climate are intimately linked." How can anyone believe that the whole GW/CC business is anything but a money grab by people like Al Gore? Calling those that do not buy into his scam, Nazis. Glad to see that old Byrd calling the Cap n Trade what it really is today. The House will be lucky if half the Democrat Senators buy into their huge tax and spend scheme.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 08, 2009 8:49 pm) Those being Big Coal...
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 09, 2009 4:56 am) |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 09, 2009 4:56 am) Byrd may be having a bit of a change of heart in his old age. Too many of his constituents are at risk of getting flooded out from all the mountaintop scraping with the overburden filling in the creeks and valleys. But yeah, India and China are still too poor to be able to afford to be greener, and why should they cut back when the West won't? |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 09, 2009 4:56 am) Coal=plentiful, reliable, and awfully polluting. Wind=plentiful, reliable (in places) and minimally polluting (mostly from manufacture of equipment) Solar=plentiful (in places), 100% reliable (sun is always shining somewhere), and minimally polluting (mostly from manufacture of equipment) Number of carcinogens released from burning coal: up to 15 Number of carcinogens released by a block of solar panels: Zero Number of carcinogens released by a wind turbine farm: Zero So you see the coal problem? The sooner we eliminate coal as a source for electricity generation, the better.
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Replying to: larsb (Jul 09, 2009 7:17 am) So for example, when CHINA builds ONE coal buring plant and there are already literally hundreds if not thousands built and many more planned: a plant lasts between 30-60 years between major upgrading. Here is one in Morocco for 1.5 BILLION (2001) link title
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 09, 2009 7:29 am) link title |
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Replying to: larsb (Jul 09, 2009 7:17 am) That is, until Mr. Peabody's Coal Train hauls it all away. You want a wind generator. T. Boone will have 687 of them for sale soon. No one wants to invest in Wind or Solar is a big part of the problem. It is too unstable of a market. As long as fossil fuel is plentiful, alternatives will be on the back burner. People with money do not want to waste millions of it fighting environmentalist over the 3 toed salamander out in the desert.
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