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#5726 of 6849
Climate Change deniers same as Nazis? by gagrice
Jul 07, 2009 (9:23 am)
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At least according to Al Gore, Head priest of the GW Cult.
 
July 7, 2009
Al Gore likens fight against climate change to battle with Nazis
 
Al Gore today compared the battle against climate change with the struggle against the Nazis.
 
The former US Vice President said the world lacked the political will to act and invoked the spirit of Winston Churchill by encouraging leaders to unite their nations to fight climate change.

 
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6658672.ece
 
The so called climate experts, act more like Nazis, trying to shut up legitimate scientists that disagree with their fear mongering.
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Re: Climate Change deniers same as Nazis? [gagrice] by fintail
Jul 07, 2009 (9:31 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 07, 2009 9:23 am)

Hmmm...I wonder how much energy his big house used today.
 
If Churchill is truly invoked, we face a dark and bleak future
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Chu disagrees with his EPA colleagues on CC findings. by gagrice
Jul 08, 2009 (5:27 am)
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So who are the deniers?
 
Washington, D.C.-During a hearing today in the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, EPA Administrator Jackson confirmed an EPA analysis showing that unilateral U.S. action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions would have no effect on climate. Moreover, when presented with an EPA chart depicting that outcome, Energy Secretary Steven Chu said he disagreed with EPA's analysis.
 
"I believe the central parts of the [EPA] chart are that U.S. action alone will not impact world CO2 levels," Administrator Jackson said.
 
Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.) presented the chart to both Jackson and Secretary Chu, which shows that meaningful emissions reductions cannot occur without aggressive action by China, India, and other developing countries. "I am encouraged that Administrator Jackson agrees that unilateral action by the U.S. will be all cost for no climate gain," Sen. Inhofe said. "With China and India recently issuing statements of defiant opposition to mandatory emissions controls, acting alone through the job-killing Waxman-Markey bill would impose severe economic burdens on American consumers, businesses, and families, all without any impact on climate."

 
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.PressReleases&Content- Record_id=564ed42f-802a-23ad-4570-3399477b1393
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Meanwhile 687 STRAY GE wind turbines... by ruking1
Jul 08, 2009 (7:04 am)
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... need homes !!?? If BILLIONAIRES can't get wind to fly.....
 
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Re: Meanwhile 687 STRAY GE wind turbines... [ruking1] by gagrice
Jul 08, 2009 (7:48 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 08, 2009 7:04 am)

Wanna bet it is some environmental group holding up the transmission lines? That is what is happening in CA with both solar and wind projects. You know the people that scream for alternatives to coal, then say you can't go through there or that is a nature preserve, etc etc.
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Even the Environmentalists think .... by ruking1
Jul 08, 2009 (12:10 pm)
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renewable energy projects (i.e., solar, wind, geothermol) are bunches of ..... HOEY !!??
 
..."Massive power project is in doubt"
By Jeanine Benca
 
Bay Area News Group
  
 
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Re: Even the Environmentalists think .... [ruking1] by steve_ HOST
Jul 08, 2009 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 08, 2009 12:10 pm)

Bad link?
 
The operative word is probably massive. The Home Power crowd (link) is about getting off the grid, not making lots of new ones.
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Re: Even the Environmentalists think .... [steve_] by ruking1
Jul 08, 2009 (12:31 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 08, 2009 12:22 pm)

I am not sure, when I hit it again, it was just fine !!??
 
The City of Santa Clara is hardly MASSIVE "Total 18.38 sq mi (47.6 km2)
 - Land 18.4 sq mi (47.6 km2)
 - Water 0.0 sq mi (0.0 km2)
Elevation 75 ft (23 m)
Population (2005)
 - Total 109,000 "...
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Re: Even the Environmentalists think .... [ruking1] by steve_ HOST
Jul 08, 2009 (1:01 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 08, 2009 12:31 pm)

Link isn't working for me still, but I got there searching the newspaper site.
 
600 miles of high-voltage transmission lines - sounds like a pretty "massive" impact.
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Re: Even the Environmentalists think .... [steve_] by ruking1
Jul 08, 2009 (1:13 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 08, 2009 1:01 pm)

It is very easy to explain... NIMBY. So they fight over years before where it would be "politically" feasible to put it (out in the middle of no where). Then when it comes more to the fruition or study phase..claim its too far (600 miles) . This crap is almost entertaining to watch !!
 
Notice that even Google (anybody ever heard of Google? ) which is headquartered in Mountain View, CA (near Santa Clara, CA) does NOT have MOST of its "server farms" in CA !!??
 
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