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Re: Cap and Trade [gagrice] by steve_ HOST
Jun 26, 2009 (7:51 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 26, 2009 7:29 pm)

Never trust Google. I knew I should have Binged it.
 
But is Business Week wrong too? (House Passes Carbon Cap-and-Trade Bill)
 
Oh yeah, Jerry Brown is the California AG, having been elected in 2006. He's running for governor (again) in 2010. (Per Wikipedia, if you can believe it...).
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Re: Cap and Trade [steve_] by gagrice
Jun 26, 2009 (8:13 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jun 26, 2009 7:51 pm)

What do you expect. Google is one of Al Gore's companies. They do not know the difference between a Senator and Congress person. It is amazing how many references you see to a Senator Boehner. Stick with Drudge and get fair and balanced news.
 
I don't think Boehner was successful. So another big fat bill has been voted on without the members of Congress having a clue as to what it says. So much for an open government. Makes Nixon's look like a wide open book.
 
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Don't remind me about Jerry Brown. If I could I would sell out and move to our place in Hawaii. Just too much invested here to bail out.
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Re: Cap and Trade [steve_] by oldfarmer50
Jun 27, 2009 (11:27 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jun 26, 2009 12:38 pm)

"...No one saw that Darryl Hannah...got arrested..."
 
I saw the photo that accompanied the story. Boy, Darryl has really let herself go.
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Boehner: Climate bill a 'pile of s--t' by gagrice
Jun 28, 2009 (5:01 am)
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Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) had a few choice words about House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D-Calif.) landmark climate-change bill after its passage Friday.
 
When asked why he read portions of the cap-and-trade bill on the floor Friday night, Boehner told The Hill, "Hey, people deserve to know what's in this pile of s--t."
 
Eight Republicans voted with Democrats to pass the bill; 44 House Democrats voted against it.
 
One Democrat was upset that his leaders would needlessly force vulnerable Dems to vote for a bill that will come back to haunt them. Mississippi Rep. Gene Taylor (D) voted against the measure that he says will die in the Senate.
 
"A lot of people walked the plank on a bill that will never become law," Taylor told The Hill after the gavel came down.

 
At least not all Democrats in the House are brain dead.
 
This says it all
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Re: Cap and Trade [oldfarmer50] by gagrice
Jun 28, 2009 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jun 27, 2009 11:27 am)

I think you were looking at that old hamburger next to Hanson. Here are some pictures of Daryl with the cuffs on. She is still a good looker and drives a diesel truck using Willie's biodiesel. So I got to like her.
 
Daryl Hannah
 
My question is what is a coal processing plant doing 300 feet from an elementary school? Probably one of the few times I would be on the side of Jim Hanson. Though maybe he is seeing the error of his ways and will become a force for good instead of evil.
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Re: Cap and Trade [gagrice] by oldfarmer50
Jun 28, 2009 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 28, 2009 7:23 am)

"...what is a coal processing plant doing 300 feet from an elementary school...
That's so when the kids quit school in 6th grade they won't have far to walk to get to work.
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Re: Cap and Trade [oldfarmer50] by ruking1
Jun 28, 2009 (8:49 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jun 28, 2009 8:46 am)

Thank the planners for a "walk able" environment. Now if they can do that in cites where they profess to advocate those kind of things.....
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Whistle Blowers not welcome at EPA by gagrice
Jun 29, 2009 (7:36 pm)
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A top Republican senator has ordered an investigation into the Environmental Protection Agency's alleged suppression of a report that questioned the science behind global warming.
 
The 98-page report, co-authored by EPA analyst Alan Carlin, pushed back on the prospect of regulating gases like carbon dioxide as a way to reduce global warming. Carlin's report argued that the information the EPA was using was out of date, and that even as atmospheric carbon dioxide levels have increased, global temperatures have declined.
 
"He came out with the truth. They don't want the truth at the EPA," Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla
 
Carlin said McGartland told him he had to pull him off the climate change issue.
 
"It was reassigning you or losing my job, and I didn't want to lose my job," Carlin said, paraphrasing what he claimed were McGartland's comments to him. "My inference (was) that he was receiving some sort of higher-level pressure."
 
Carlin said he personally does not think there is a need to regulate carbon dioxide, since "global temperatures are going down." He said his report expressed a "good bit of doubt" on the connection between the two.
 
Specifically, the report noted that global temperatures were on a downward trend over the past 11 years, that scientists do not necessarily believe that storms will become more frequent or more intense due to global warming, and that the theory that temperatures will cause Greenland ice to rapidly melt has been "greatly diminished."
 
Carlin, in a March 16 e-mail, argued that his comments are "valid, significant" and would be critical to the EPA finding.
 
McGartland, though, wrote back the next day saying he had decided not to forward his comments.

 
CC/GW ??
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Who said CC was not lucrative? by gagrice
Jul 01, 2009 (12:03 pm)
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Democrats got the votes they needed to pass the CC bill the old fashioned way.
THEY BOUGHT THEM!
 
They finally secured the vote of one Ohioan, veteran Democratic Rep. Marcy Kaptur of Toledo, the old-fashioned way. They gave her what she wanted - a new federal power authority, similar to Washington state's Bonneville Power Administration, stocked with up to $3.5 billion in taxpayer money available for lending to renewable energy and economic development projects in Ohio and other Midwestern states.
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Climate Change deniers same as Nazis? by gagrice
Jul 07, 2009 (9:23 am)
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At least according to Al Gore, Head priest of the GW Cult.
 
July 7, 2009
Al Gore likens fight against climate change to battle with Nazis
 
Al Gore today compared the battle against climate change with the struggle against the Nazis.
 
The former US Vice President said the world lacked the political will to act and invoked the spirit of Winston Churchill by encouraging leaders to unite their nations to fight climate change.

 
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6658672.ece
 
The so called climate experts, act more like Nazis, trying to shut up legitimate scientists that disagree with their fear mongering.

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