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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 16, 2009 9:20 am) |
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 16, 2009 6:48 am) - I used to ride in the bed of a pickup truck - I didn't need to wear a seatbelt in a car - I didn't have to have a car-seat for kids - I didn't have to worry about tickets from automated cameras; no proof I was driving the vehicle And do I have the most flagrant violation of our Constitution - the Patriot Act, where anyone can be picked up and never see a lawyer or the light of day for years? Oh, did you see the news the other night where the government did acknowledge that all those years of denying torture of detainees was a lie? |
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Replying to: kernick (Jan 16, 2009 9:29 am) - I used to ride in the bed of a pickup truck Dangerous, makes insurance rates and hospital visits go up for all of us, kills kids, increases death rates for all - I didn't need to wear a seatbelt in a car Dangerous, makes insurance rates and hospital visits go up for all of us, increase death rates for all - I didn't have to have a car-seat for kids Dangerous, makes insurance rates and hospital visits go up for all of us, kills kids. - I didn't have to worry about tickets from automated cameras; no proof I was driving the vehicle You were still breaking the law in the old days. |
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 16, 2009 9:44 am) So does alcohol and tobacco and they are both still legal. Could it be justified by the enormous sin taxes taken in? |
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Could we get back to the topic please?
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 16, 2009 9:44 am) What you asked in the challenge was; and I copied and pasted your statement, so it hasn't changed, is - "Name a few personal freedoms you have personally lost in the last 50 years." So I answered just with 4 auto-related examples. Now topic specific to the purported GW; which my Ambient Temp of -15F at 7:45am (so probably not the low of the night) this morning doesn't agree with. I and many others believe in personal freedom and put it first, over the Greater Good. This individual freedom is the same desire to live well that Al Gore enjoys. I aspire to live like Al Gore with the big boat and houses, and only caring about the "Good for All" in words, but not thru actions.  Actually people like me, gagrice, and ruking have a much smaller carbon-footprint than Gore, and at least are not hypocrites like Gore. In general when it comes to listening and following the majority of our political and business leaders, many times in the name of good, I remind myself of: 1) 99% of these people are proven either to be idiots or crooks, OR BOTH, and 2) that the reason behind most new legislation is to increase the power and wealth of the political class and the wealthy who lobby and buy these guys, for their mutual benefit. Corporations and other wealthy people did not spend $2B during the elction campaigns for nothing, and the 40,000+ lobbyists in DC are there for a reason. They are there to create a system that legally robs and steals your $ thru taxes, and gives them power by promising the sheep of society, increased safety in return. Many people like Al Gore believe that the world would be a better place if the populace would just agree to let government make the decisions as to what is good for you. They could tell you what temp. to keep your house (save energy), what to eat for balanced meals (ban bad foods), what to drive (or bike), when to cut the grass, whether you can cut a tree and whether you could burn the wood, ... These are all personal choices that government should not interfere in. |
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 16, 2009 9:58 am) We as a society need to rebel and buy the biggest, baddest SUV or PU that will fit in our driveway in protest of this horde of wealthy elitist.  Or you can just sit in front of your flat screen and vegetate into a society that is being planned for you by the likes of Al Gore and Henry Waxman.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 16, 2009 4:54 pm) Better move to Alaska Kernick - Anchorage set a record today of 50°F. That's above btw..
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 16, 2009 4:59 pm) I agree it is an assault on the poor people of the earth. All the CC money making schemes will not affect me like it will the couple trying to make a decent living in today's screwed up economy. We have nearly 10% unemployed or we will have shortly. Our lame brained Congress can only think of ways to make cars and utilities more expensive than they already are.
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 16, 2009 9:44 am) Larsb " Dangerous, makes insurance rates and hospital visits go up for all of us, kills kids, increases death rates for all " I vote we remove the car vacation - 5,000 miles round trip in a car when you really should take public transportaion Must be stopped for the good of the poeple.- oh and to use your logic - 5,000 mile car trip, use up gas, increase global warming makes things bad for kids, increased potential for an accident, etc, etc, etc....
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