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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 16, 2009 7:27 am) With AL (gangster) Gore the leader of the pack. Global warming.  What will they think of next, to legalize stealing from US citizens? Of course I disagree with you on the diesel PU truck also. I do not believe a 40 MPG small 4 cylinder diesel PU, like those sold world wide, would put out as much TOTAL pollution as my legal 15 MPG Sequoia.
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 16, 2009 7:35 am) And how many people had their lives ruined before that happened? To steal a quote from the movie "Die Hard"---"How many people do I have to kill before I get around to some one you DO care about?"
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All those parked SUVs made it a cooler year in 2008 Still the 9th warmest year on record though. 2008 was globe's coolest year of the decade Climate reports from two separate government agencies found that 2008 was the Earth's coolest year this decade. At the same time, data from both agencies (NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies and NOAA's National Climatic Data Center) identified 2008 as one of the 10 warmest years on record globally. Although cool by recent standards, NASA says 2008 was still the 9th-warmest year on record (records extend back to 1880). The Earth's 10 warmest years have all occurred since 1997, which most scientists pinpoint as a sign of global warming due to the burning of fossil fuels. NOAA's data found that 2008 tied with 2001 as the 8th-warmest year on record for the Earth, based on the combined average of worldwide land and ocean surface temperatures through December. NOAA and NASA analyses differ slightly in methodology, but both use data from NCDC - the federal government's official source for climate data. The combined global land and ocean surface temperature from January-December was 0.88 degree above the 20th century average of 57 degrees, the 32nd consecutive year the Earth has been warmer than average. Since 1880, the Earth's temperature has increased at a rate of 0.09 degree per decade, which has increased to 0.29 degree per decade over the past 30 years. NASA found that most of the planet was either near average or warmer than average (see NASA map, above, click to enlarge). All of Europe, most of Asia, Africa, the Arctic and the Antarctic Peninsula were exceptionally warm, while small parts of central North America, southeastern South America, and much of the Pacific Ocean were slightly cooler than the long-term average. Arctic sea ice extent in 2008 reached its second-lowest melt season extent on record in September, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center. The minimum of 1.80 million square miles was 0.80 million square miles below the 1979-2000 average minimum extent. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 16, 2009 7:42 am) The above quote is a perfect example of talk about burning less while continuing to burn more. !! Most folks just absolutely gaze over when you say that for like models, diesels burn less on the order of normally 20-40%!!!! They just try to hide the truth. The system is hell bent on burning more AND more importantly , increasing the cost per mile driven. |
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 16, 2009 7:41 am) More regulations to steal from the little guy. Does anyone here believe that ANY automaker can get a fleet average of 42 MPG? Of course not. It is so easy to sell that kind of ignorance to the masses. They all want a Tahoe that gets 42 MPG. It just is not going to happen. They can barely do it in a smallish midsized car like the Prius. So that means big fines that get passed on to the car buyers. It will probably have the unintended result of pushing the Domestics over the cliff. Of course that will make Moonbeam happy as he has hated them for a long time.
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 16, 2009 7:41 am) I can't believe you said that. Of course I agree and have tried to get my affairs in such an order as to have the least impact on my lifestyle. If I could just sell my old house I would be ready to start selling Larsb my excess carbon credits. 
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 16, 2009 8:22 am) |
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Obama to take custom Cadillac limo to inauguration link title Trading in HIS gas guzzler (Chrysler 300) for a BIGGER gas guzzler!! (news.yahoo.com) Yup, he is keeping the campaign promises, its time for a change !!
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 16, 2009 8:54 am)
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