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Automotive News & Views Are automobiles a major cause of global warming?
6874 messages, Last post on Nov 30, 2009 at 2:04 PM
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Replying to: houdini1 (Jan 08, 2009 7:24 am) How are you holding up Kernick? We may as well talk about it since we can't do anything about it (until Al tells us what we can do).
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 08, 2009 9:20 am) I was hoping for some warm weather to help the melting, but a cold-front's coming in tonight and we're expectin temps. to be 0 - 20F the next week. Fortunately my oil tank was filled recently. I need to run that, as I had a burst-baseboard-pipe in a closed-off bedroom, when just using my woodstove. My hot-tub has snow on it, and is shutoff (to save energy). Besides that, I'm just loving the cold weather. 
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Replying to: kernick (Jan 08, 2009 9:43 am) The cold does build character. 
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 08, 2009 9:51 am) I talked to a guy Sunday from Glenallen, AK. He used that stuff in his house. He just shuts down and leaves Drains most of the water out of the lines. But says the stuff just does not burst even if you have water in a low spot. If you ask people up there what they think of this climate change you will get about the same response as Kernick will give you. Bring it on as fast as you can. They have hit -62 degrees up there already. And it is not into the real cold time of year. As you well know. It has been -20 in Anchorage for the last week. I don't miss it at all. I was just out working in the yard in my shorts and T shirt. 72 wonderful degrees. What ever we are doing to the climate. I LIKE IT..... 
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 08, 2009 9:51 am) The cold does build character. I guess it's not as bad as the character-building methods of many tribes I've seen on Nat. Geo. Jumping off the 80' tower with the vine around the ankle, that stops you just short of the ground, is slightly worse.
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Replying to: kernick (Jan 08, 2009 10:54 am) I never had hot water baseboard heat but I thought an antifreeze mix was SOP. Well, there was a rental in Anchorage back in the early days with baseboard heat. Went camping for 3 days during a cold snap and all the pipes in the triplex busted, the toilets, you name it. We wound up camping in the apartment for another week with just a wood stove for backup. I ran a new line to an outdoor faucet with PEX and a Shark fitting to replace a PVC line that had frozen in a barely conditioned crawlspace, so I'm hoping for no more problems there. I do drain that line in the fall though. Back to the subject, one guy in Uganda is worried about climate change. Well, not too topical since he doesn't talk about cars directly.
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 07, 2009 9:23 pm)  Shoot if it gets any colder we'd have to break out the sweaters
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 08, 2009 11:29 am) |
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 08, 2009 11:00 am) Well it is topical because as any good psych. student will tell you when you live in poverty like 2/3 of the world's population, and struggle for survival and your food for tomorrow, you're not really going to be thinking about how green your lifestyle is. Hence you have people who will use whatever fuel is available, in whatever way is possible. As I've said before the gasoline I may not burn, may then be hacked from a pipe in Nigeria and burned in some village there. Even if the entire advanced world got off fossil fuels in the next 20 years, all that does is lower the price of the fossil fuels such that poorer societies can and will use them. The overall usage rate drops, but the fact that the fossil fuels will be burnt is not in doubt. Only an entire global population with readily available, inexpensive green-energy will stop fossil fuel use.
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Replying to: kernick (Jan 08, 2009 5:34 pm) You make a good point that a country has to obtain a certain standard of living before they can begin to think about being more green. Although in a place like China, you can wind up hammering your standard of living by poisoning the people you are trying to bootstrap up the ladder.
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