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Re: A more dire threat than Climate Change [kernick] by steve_ HOST
Jan 06, 2009 (6:12 pm)
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Replying to: kernick (Jan 06, 2009 5:39 pm)

Well, the Powerball is up to $105 million and I do have the itch.
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Yellowstone Supervolcano Earthquakes: Update by gagrice
Jan 06, 2009 (10:01 pm)
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For North America this could take our minds of GW for a while.
 
What does the earthquake swarm mean?
 
It is our opinion, and in agreement with Dr. Robert Smith of the University of Utah, that the current events are more of a major seismic event rather than a major volcanic event. The Alert Status of Yellowstone continues, at this time, to remain at the Green Alert Level. We do not anticipate the Alert Level to be raised at this time.

 
The CONSENSUS is a large part of the USA will be covered by volcanic ash if that volcano erupts. It is several times the size of Mt St Helens. Maybe now is the time for that extra coat of wax on the car.
 
The crater atop Mount St. Helens is about 2 square miles. The Yellowstone "caldera" — a depression in the Earth equivalent to a crater top — is some 1,500 square miles.
 
The 1980 Mount St. Helens eruption blew 1,300 vertical feet off the mountain, sent an eruption column 80,000 feet high in 15 minutes, ejected 1.4 billion cubic yards of ash detectable over 22,000 square miles, and killed 57 people.
 
But the last major eruption at Yellowstone, some 640,000 years ago, ejected 8,000 times the ash and lava of Mount St. Helens.
 
And that wasn't even the largest eruption in Yellowstone's prehistoric past.

http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/supervolcano/under/under.html
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Interesting records... by ruking1
Jan 07, 2009 (7:55 am)
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Spokane residents deal with record snow
 
link title
 
..."The Spokane area has been buried by 6.5 feet of snow since the middle of December. That included 7.5 inches that fell at Spokane International Airport on Monday, a record for the date."...
 
Interesting that WA state a cradle of recent WW global warming protestations, the above is happening.
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Re: Interesting records... [ruking1] by gagrice
Jan 07, 2009 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 07, 2009 7:55 am)

Better be careful. You are sitting in the hottest of GW hotbeds. It may snow on SF. It got Malibu a few weeks ago. Spent a couple nights in Idyllwild, CA. The oldtimers say it is the most snow before Christmas since the 1940s. One snowfall over two feet. Lake Big Bear got 44 inches on that same Arctic storm in December. I think this winter will break the tip off the Hockey stick. I am sure Big Al will have a logical explanation when he digs out of his snow bank.
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Re: Interesting records... [ruking1] by houdini1
Jan 07, 2009 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 07, 2009 7:55 am)

Yes, they are extremely lucky. Without GW they would really be in a fix !!
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Re: Interesting records... [houdini1] by ruking1
Jan 07, 2009 (8:59 am)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Jan 07, 2009 8:37 am)

Well it does make you wonder what would happen if in the future we all converted (enormous and unnecessary expense) to EV vehicles (with the attending solar support) AND due to "inclement" weather conditions, the electrical power gets choked out for days to weeks.........Obviously the solar panels would not be functioning to efficiencies necessary to provide electrical needs.....
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Re: Interesting records... [ruking1] by kernick
Jan 07, 2009 (9:09 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 07, 2009 8:59 am)

Well it does make you wonder what would happen if in the future we all converted to EV vehicles AND due to "inclement" weather conditions the electrical power gets choked out for days to weeks..
 
And I also wonder what % of advertised-range you'd get when you use battery power to run front and rear defrosters, run the wipers, run the lights, maybe put on a radio and operate in -10F weather.
 
Obviously the solar panels would not be functioning to efficiencies necessary to provide electrical needs.....
 
Having just seen an ice storm, I think you'd need to cut down any tree within 50' of a panel. I also don't know how effective they would be buried under snow and ice. And here in NH at this time of year we're lucky to get 8 hr/week of sunshine because of the short days and constant cloud-cover.
 
When the weather turns bad everyone around here who has power, is using a liquid fuel - either propane or going to the gas station for gasoline, to power a generator.
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Re: Interesting records... [houdini1] by alltorque
Jan 07, 2009 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Jan 07, 2009 8:37 am)

Boys and girls. Please repeat after me............"Global Warming is dead. Long live Climate Change".
 
How do I kinow ? I'm old, I've retired from big oil, I live in the U.K., (no tears, just send money), I've had two lots of cardiac surgery, a heart attack and lost a kidney to cancer, (and other ailments I won't bother you with), I drive a Volvo diesel and - big surprise - I'm cynical. So, you see, I know these things. Mr Gore is an amateur...........his Global Warming horse went lame and will shortly be shot. Come to the pro's if you want the real skinny.
 
So, once again, repeat after me............."Global Warming is............"
 
Now all that snow and low temps makes perfect sense.
 
Keep smilin'. It makes everyone else think you know something they don't.
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Re: Interesting records... [alltorque] by ruking1
Jan 07, 2009 (9:21 am)
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Replying to: alltorque (Jan 07, 2009 9:10 am)

So from "across the pond" is your post the good news or bad news or both? . I say this only because the policys/policies that took SO long and much marketing and advertisement has long since been included in almost ALL levels and all aspects of government !!! So even as global warming, climate change or whatever one wishes to call it, has been part of the policy landscape for easily 40 years: it will take ANOTHER 40 years MINIUM to expunge.
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Re: Interesting records... [alltorque] by oldfarmer50
Jan 07, 2009 (9:47 am)
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Replying to: alltorque (Jan 07, 2009 9:10 am)

"...his Global Warming horse went lame..."
 
I think you may be correct in that I have seen some ever so slight back-pedaling by the media on the whole GW thing.
 
This morning as I was off work (schools closed again by snow & ice) I was watching a History channel show on "The Little Ice Age". As part of the discussion they had a climatologist talking about what caused a 4-7 degree drop in global temperatures long before the industrial revolution.
 
He stated "It just shows how we have NO CONTROL over the climate".
 
This is a small admission from a station which has run shows centering on how we will all be drowning in a few years when the ice caps melt.

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