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Replying to: bpeebles (Jan 05, 2009 4:10 pm) 
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Replying to: bpeebles (Jan 05, 2009 4:10 pm) Don't worry the CC cultists have an answer for that. It seems that this new ice is the "wrong kind" of ice and is prone to melting away. Now, how these folks know what kind of ice was there in 1979, I don't know. Maybe it was certified organic ice which has a different chemistry than this new modern ice. 
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 06, 2009 9:01 am) "Why were predictions so wrong? Researchers had expected the newer sea ice, which is thinner, to be less resilient and melt easier. Instead, the thinner ice had less snow cover to insulate it from the bitterly cold air, and therefore grew much faster than expected, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center." Sea Ice Ends Year at Same Level as 1979 (Daily Tech) In other matters, it appears there is a difference in terminology: "According to the National Academy of Sciences, the phrase climate change encompasses changes in temperature, precipitation and wind lasting for an extended period of time. While global warming refers to an increase in the temperature at the atmosphere near the earth's surface." Climate Change versus Global Warming (Muncie Green)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 06, 2009 9:07 am) Would welcome a little GW right now; it's chilly here and Russia is playing silly beggars with natural gas supplies. 
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http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2009-01-01-mammothimpact_N.htm I really think that whether GW (or Climate Change or whatever the vogue word of the day is) is 1%, 10%, or 25% contribution by man, that we spend our energy and resources on the more important threats to the environment. As theorized in that article, these impacts set fire to the entire continent of North America! We need to have our scientiic resources focused on these planet-killer threats, not running around trying to figure out the small part man has in putting CO2 in the air. Or how to stop a 1C increase! There aren't many resources right now focused on detecting or stopping these sorts of comet/asteroid collisions. To me spending money on GW is like worrying about what is causing a skin-rash, when you really should be focusing on preventing a heart-attack. But since we have some sort of "religious" subconcious-psych-issue going with "man is bad", and "we must repent for sins against nature", we spend time worrying about the less important issues.
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Replying to: kernick (Jan 06, 2009 9:59 am) Skin rashes can be fatal too.
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 06, 2009 10:41 am) A 1C or few C rise in temperature would allow more organisms to thrive in wider parts of the globe. On the other hand the natural planet-killer events will wipe-out most large species either immediately, or make the climate harsh for years and kill the initial survivors that way. I have 0% chance of dying from GW in the next decades; my chances of dying from a planet-killer are similar to buying a lottery ticket each day. I'd prefer any GW-research-$ be used for scanning the skies, and developing technology to prevent impacts. |
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Replying to: kernick (Jan 06, 2009 11:32 am) Oh, NASA is tracking some 1,000 potentially hazardous asteroids. |
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 06, 2009 11:45 am) If an asteroid hits, we won't have to worry about bark beetles, climate change or even another episode of Rosie O'Donnell's variety show.
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Replying to: grbeck (Jan 06, 2009 12:40 pm)  You know NASA is going to solve the asteroid issue by putting a few hyperspace shooters in orbit. |
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