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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 27, 2008 5:18 pm) I wonder, in a few years, when it finally sinks in to the heads of the masses that they have been the victims of a scam that makes Maddoff's Ponzi scheme look pale in comparison, who will take the blame? Will the public rail against the media that spread the lies to get better ratings? Will there be a backlash against the grant whore enviro groups and scientists? Or will they demand the heads of the gutless politicians who sold the economy down the river to get a few votes. My guess is they will find some way to blame it on Bush. 
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Dec 28, 2008 7:19 am) You are probably right. And he was one of the few that did not grab onto the carbon credit taxing scheme and run with it. |
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"You have to think that global warming denialist Matt Drudge must be getting desperate when he touts a column by Christopher "White asbestos is harmless" Booker arguing that winter has disproved man-made global warming:" Study the graph and you too can be a Climate Data Analyst.  Deltoid |
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 30, 2008 7:33 am)  Shows a definite warming trend. Something is making the air warmer. |
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 30, 2008 7:33 am) I hate to get all logical on Booker, but none of this has anything to do with a disproof of AGW. Even if you accept his premise that we can't afford to reduce emissions, it does not follow that emissions are not causing warming. Nor does his argument prove that man is the major cause of the changes in Climate. My contention is now and has been since day one. If man is the cause of climate change, that change would be going up in a linear fashion. I think it is safe to say we have created more GHG this year than last around the globe. And more last year than the year before. Yet the global temperatures are not going all up as would be logical. Even if the scientist have made a case for the Global Temperatures rising over the last 28 years. It is not in step with the rise in man made GHG. Leading me to believe as others do, that we are a very insignificant part of Climate Change. I think the desperation is on the part of the CC followers. They have no practical solution to cutting GHG. Yet they burn tons of carbon flying around the world having parties, conferences, concerts etc, trying to get the masses to buy into their theory. What can the masses do. You think the billions of Chinese and Indians are going to cut back their progress after a hundred years of watching the rest of the World living it up. Do you think Americans will buy into more than a pittance of cutting back on what they produce in the course of trying to survive in a hostile economy. I am just too much of a Pragmatist to buy into this whole idea. |
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 30, 2008 7:48 am) 
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 30, 2008 7:48 am) Yeah, like the fact that the thermometer is now hanging in front of a sky-scraper instead of uncle Jeb's barn like it was in 1920.
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Dec 30, 2008 8:39 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 30, 2008 8:47 am) |
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 30, 2008 8:56 am) Yugo? Really? Are they even for sale anymore? If there ANYONE out there saying "drive the smallest car available?" No. Drive the least polluting car that makes sense for your family and fits your budget and needs. "Push all the little people into high rise apartments?" Is anyone anywhere doing that? That was an urban restructuring plan from the 1960s. No one of any consequence is preaching that anymore. "Stinking Bus?" Have you ridden a city bus in a major city LATELY? I have - in San Fran and in Phoenix. And in neither case was the bus "stinky." And the "Grand Canyon" is not nearly as "Grand" as it used to be. Pollution has diminished the views. I was there in March 2008. So let's not get silly. "Control the masses" is ridiculous as a statement and totally misaligned with American public policy. |
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