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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Dec 22, 2008 4:12 pm) Old Farmer, your post referenced above still has the alarmists stumped. Not one reply or reference to this post from any of them. I guess they folded their tents and went home. Great post. 
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The first, on May 21, headed "Climate change threat to Alpine ski resorts" , reported that the entire Alpine "winter sports industry" could soon "grind to a halt for lack of snow". The second, on December 19, headed "The Alps have best snow conditions in a generation" , reported that this winter's Alpine snowfalls "look set to beat all records by New Year's Day". Easily one of the most important stories of 2008 has been all the evidence suggesting that this may be looked back on as the year when there was a turning point in the great worldwide panic over man-made global warming. Just when politicians in Europe and America have been adopting the most costly and damaging measures politicians have ever proposed, to combat this supposed menace, the tide has turned in three significant respects. First, all over the world, temperatures have been dropping in a way wholly unpredicted by all those computer models which have been used as the main drivers of the scare. Last winter, as temperatures plummeted, many parts of the world had snowfalls on a scale not seen for decades. This winter, with the whole of Canada and half the US under snow, looks likely to be even worse. After several years flatlining, global temperatures have dropped sharply enough to cancel out much of their net rise in the 20th century. Ever shriller and more frantic has become the insistence of the warmists, cheered on by their army of media groupies such as the BBC, that the last 10 years have been the "hottest in history" and that the North Pole would soon be ice-free – as the poles remain defiantly icebound and those polar bears fail to drown. All those hysterical predictions that we are seeing more droughts and hurricanes than ever before have infuriatingly failed to materialise. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/3982101/2008-was- -the-year-man-made-global-warming-was-disproved.html Well Big AL it was worth a try. And you got a $100 million for doing absolutely nothing over the last 7 years. A feat many televangelist would be hard pressed to beat.
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 27, 2008 5:18 pm) |
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 27, 2008 5:18 pm) I wonder, in a few years, when it finally sinks in to the heads of the masses that they have been the victims of a scam that makes Maddoff's Ponzi scheme look pale in comparison, who will take the blame? Will the public rail against the media that spread the lies to get better ratings? Will there be a backlash against the grant whore enviro groups and scientists? Or will they demand the heads of the gutless politicians who sold the economy down the river to get a few votes. My guess is they will find some way to blame it on Bush. 
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Dec 28, 2008 7:19 am) You are probably right. And he was one of the few that did not grab onto the carbon credit taxing scheme and run with it. |
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"You have to think that global warming denialist Matt Drudge must be getting desperate when he touts a column by Christopher "White asbestos is harmless" Booker arguing that winter has disproved man-made global warming:" Study the graph and you too can be a Climate Data Analyst.  Deltoid |
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 30, 2008 7:33 am)  Shows a definite warming trend. Something is making the air warmer. |
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 30, 2008 7:33 am) I hate to get all logical on Booker, but none of this has anything to do with a disproof of AGW. Even if you accept his premise that we can't afford to reduce emissions, it does not follow that emissions are not causing warming. Nor does his argument prove that man is the major cause of the changes in Climate. My contention is now and has been since day one. If man is the cause of climate change, that change would be going up in a linear fashion. I think it is safe to say we have created more GHG this year than last around the globe. And more last year than the year before. Yet the global temperatures are not going all up as would be logical. Even if the scientist have made a case for the Global Temperatures rising over the last 28 years. It is not in step with the rise in man made GHG. Leading me to believe as others do, that we are a very insignificant part of Climate Change. I think the desperation is on the part of the CC followers. They have no practical solution to cutting GHG. Yet they burn tons of carbon flying around the world having parties, conferences, concerts etc, trying to get the masses to buy into their theory. What can the masses do. You think the billions of Chinese and Indians are going to cut back their progress after a hundred years of watching the rest of the World living it up. Do you think Americans will buy into more than a pittance of cutting back on what they produce in the course of trying to survive in a hostile economy. I am just too much of a Pragmatist to buy into this whole idea. |
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 30, 2008 7:48 am) 
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