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Re: I'd dump my 10 year old Quest for $4,000 [ruking1] by gagrice
Dec 23, 2008 (12:27 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 23, 2008 12:20 pm)

Our 19 year old Lexus LS400 passed with flying colors this year. Though the $4000 is tempting for our old Lexus. I don't think I could get anything I would want right now. If there was a new vehicle I wanted on the market I would buy it. No more screaming 4 or 6 cylinder gas engines for me. If the Lexus were to have a major failure I would probably buy the VW TDI Sportwagen to replace it. Not perfect but better than any gasser for running errands and shopping.
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GLOBAL WARMING IS NOT HAPPENING by bpeebles
Dec 23, 2008 (7:13 pm)
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Given that the scientefic community today announced that 2008 is the COLDEST year on record and that "Global Warming" is obviously not happening... I guess this discussion is a moot point.
 
This forum is candidate for closing and putting in the archives!!
 
(Or change the title of this forum...)
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS NOT HAPPENING [bpeebles] by steve_ HOST
Dec 23, 2008 (7:42 pm)
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Replying to: bpeebles (Dec 23, 2008 7:13 pm)

I believe the headline you're seeing is "the coldest year in a decade".
 
But all those headlines seem to be from opinion pieces.
 
Meanwhile, 2008 Among the 10 Warmest Years - Marked by Weather Extremes and Lowest Level of Arctic Ice Cover. (Yubanet)
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS NOT HAPPENING [steve_] by bpeebles
Dec 23, 2008 (8:00 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 23, 2008 7:42 pm)

No -that is not what I was refering to.
 
Also, it is now realized that the SOUTH pole ice is increasing faster than previously.... again, what we see as a loss at the NORTH pole is apparently being made up on the SOUTH pole.
 
Mother Nature stays in equalibrium in spite of what us puny humans can do. How can any educated person honestly beleive humans can have a lasting effect on the climate? (besides cutting down the rainforests) We need to stop feeding the notion that humans are CAUSING climate change and especially stop the politicians trying to "FIX" it!!
 
Just a single volcano eruption puts more crp into the atmospehere than any humans ever can with a 10million cars.
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS NOT HAPPENING [bpeebles] by steve_ HOST
Dec 23, 2008 (8:05 pm)
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Replying to: bpeebles (Dec 23, 2008 8:00 pm)

Got a link?
 
I see some from back in January, like this one from the Christian Science Monitor:
 
Scientists are puzzled, but the phenomenon seems to fit the latest global-warming models
 
(and thanks for the diversion from the Poinsettia Bowl - TCU has all the stats going for them. )
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Not as cold as this guy must have thought it was. by gagrice
Dec 24, 2008 (5:34 am)
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Be safe this Christmas. Let someone else test the thickness of the ICE... These people were lucky..
 
http://www.newsminer.com/photos/2008/dec/22/6380/
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Re: I'd dump my 10 year old Quest for $4,000 [steve_] by oldfarmer50
Dec 24, 2008 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 23, 2008 11:45 am)

"...I'd dump my 10 year old Quest for $4000..."
 
The only trouble is what could you replace it with for $4000? Many people who are driving around old clunkers are doing so because they can't afford anything else. Take all the clunkers off the road and you would price those folks out of the market.
 
Still, if I could get $4K for my 24 year-old Ford I could probably afford to upgrade to a nice 15 year-old one.
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS NOT HAPPENING [steve_] by kernick
Dec 24, 2008 (5:49 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 23, 2008 8:05 pm)

This suggests strong climate connections and feedbacks among sea, ice, and air in the Southern Ocean that are poorly understood.
 
And then the article goes on to make predictions based on that, and say that's what the IPCC's model predicts! LOL!
 
If nothing else this shows the arrogance of scientists, and the pressure they are under to make some sort of statement, show some progress, and vie for preeminence in thier field of Climatology . I guess it's better for them to "hand in crap supported by carefully chosen data" and survive professionally for another 20 years, rather than admit they are many decades away from knowing all the variables and their relative impacts on the climate.
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS NOT HAPPENING [kernick] by ruking1
Dec 24, 2008 (7:08 am)
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Replying to: kernick (Dec 24, 2008 5:49 am)

When they went from WINTER, SPRING SUMMER or FALL, actually the predictive value falls down when they try to turn it (climate change ) into rocket science, when rocket science it is NOT !!
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Just in Time for Christmas by oldfarmer50
Dec 24, 2008 (8:58 am)
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As I was sitting here worried that Santa was destined to drown with the polar bears I heard a story that really brought me down.
 
It seems the surgeon general has determined that Santa Claus is "too fat" and therefore a bad example to children. I know that some of you will say this is just more politically correct nonsense but just think how many kids might be planning to become obese, dress in funny clothes and do break-ins on multiple homes all because of this bad example.
 
Worst of all, HE SMOKES A PIPE!!!!!!. (unless he has a doctor's note to smoke that medical wacky weed, in which case, never mind.)
 
MERRY CHRISTMAS.

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