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This weather is adding up ... by kernick
Dec 22, 2008 (9:26 am)
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to soon being climate. It seems that it is not just one area on one day that is colder than normal, as proponents of GW love to use that excuse to dismiss new data!
 
http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Deroy+Murdock%3a+Baby%2c+it%27s- +cold+outside%2c+no+matter+what+Al+Gore+says&articleId=b5668d53-404e-4f91-9356-9- 1cba0117933
 
Because of this continued "GW" my combustion of fosil fuels is increasing (running low on wood, and just ordered 200 gal of oil). Snow from Nov - April (6 months) year after year does not convince me of any GW!
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Ghengis Khan (of the Mongols fame) evidently didnt get the word by ruking1
Dec 22, 2008 (11:01 am)
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"Founded by Mongols in the time of Ghengis Kahn, the town of"...
 
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Re: A 2,000-Year Global Temperature Record [larsb] by houdini1
Dec 22, 2008 (12:10 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 22, 2008 7:21 am)

Larsb, I agree with you. The problem is that it is the global warming devotees who are making a big deal of this. Others of us on this forum are acting in a strictly defensive mode and trying to reason with them.
 
People just can't start presenting theories and misinformation as scientific fact and expect others not to oppose/expose them. Don't you agree?
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Re: A 2,000-Year Global Temperature Record [houdini1] by larsb
Dec 22, 2008 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Dec 22, 2008 12:10 pm)

Well, I agree that the "The Sky Is Falling" attitude is the wrong attitude.
 
But so is "Poo Poo, Man has no effect at all" the wrong attitude.
 
What got me leaning the "Pro-GW" way in the first place was not AlGore or any of his ilk. ( He and his Carbon Credits can bite me.)
 
It was simply reading the NASA temperature records and noticing how from 1980-2007, 23 of the 28 years had been "above the norm" since measurements started in 1880.
 
And yes, I KNOW THAT'S A SMALL SAMPLING. I'm not going to get into that fact.
 
What it DOES show me is a trend of warmth. I'd like to know the cause of the trend. If it's something Man is doing, then let's try to fix it. If not, let's find out what it is.
 
Regardless, we need to be better stewards of our planet, or the aliens might send Klaatu and Gort down to erase us.
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Re: A 2,000-Year Global Temperature Record [larsb] by oldfarmer50
Dec 22, 2008 (4:12 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 22, 2008 7:21 am)

"...no one can know the complete, full, true impact of man's activities..."
 
And yet there are some who would bankrupt us individually and our country as a whole based on this incomplete and most likely, bogus theory.
 
Let's put it in to another context.
 
Let's say that creation scientists proclaim that if we all don't fall in line behind their theory, the earth will be doomed. In addition these creationists say we should levy an "evolution tax" upon all people even if this means some of them will starve. It's for their own good, they will say, because "we creationists have a consensus that our way is the right way".
 
Now let's say that the creationist's friends in the news media label everyone who disagrees as a "denier" and dismisses everything they have to say.
 
Wouldn't it be frightening to live in a world like that?
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Re: A 2,000-Year Global Temperature Record [oldfarmer50] by houdini1
Dec 22, 2008 (6:09 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Dec 22, 2008 4:12 pm)

Now that is a good one to cogitate on !!!
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Re: A 2,000-Year Global Temperature Record [oldfarmer50] by gagrice
Dec 22, 2008 (8:06 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Dec 22, 2008 4:12 pm)

because "we creationists have a consensus that our way is the right way".
 
Food for thought. I would say more people in the World believe in Creation by a higher being than believe in GW/CC caused by man. In fact the very small minority that believe we are doomed if we don't all pay into the Carbon Credit scam, are wielding a mighty big stick over the rest of us. Anyone claiming a consensus of opinion, is not to be trusted. It just means they, and a few friends have this theory. I am sure that many of the scientist that believe in the CC by man theory are sincere. That does not make them right.
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Re: A 2,000-Year Global Temperature Record [gagrice] by kernick
Dec 23, 2008 (4:54 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 22, 2008 8:06 pm)

Maybe I can combine those theories, and say that because God is all good, he would never let us get in real trouble, and if the CO2 level gets too high, and it is too much of a problem, all we have to do is pray,and God will put the CO2 back where it naturally belongs. No problem! No sense us humans worrying a lot about something that God can fix in a blink of an eye.
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Re: A 2,000-Year Global Temperature Record [kernick] by alltorque
Dec 23, 2008 (6:49 am)
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Replying to: kernick (Dec 23, 2008 4:54 am)

Nice thought, Kernick............even with the smilie. Now let me see. Who do I have more faith in ? God or Gore & his disciples. Hmmm. Tough one (not). Well, it begins with G.................but only has 3 letters. Sorry, Al, witchdoctors and shamen are not my style.
 
In case I don't post before..............may I wish a Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy and Peaceful New Year to all you fellow CC heretics, (oh, O.K., and the rest as well).
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I'd dump my 10 year old Quest for $4,000 by steve_ HOST
Dec 23, 2008 (11:45 am)
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"A double-barreled idea that could help clean up our air and give a breath of life to a gasping auto industry is being pushed by the top Democrat and Republican on the House Energy and Air Quality Subcommittee."
 
'Cash For Clunkers' Program Would Make Sense -- If Approached Sensibly (Green Car Advisor)
 

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