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Replying to: larsb (Dec 22, 2008 7:54 am)  We all may as well take a 4 week breather - assuming Obama's science appointments are all confirmed, there's going to be a lot of fresh arguments on the table.
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 22, 2008 7:59 am) My problem is with those that think we can change the Global temperatures significantly. I also detest the alarmist that would have me drive a Yugo so they can live in an 11,000 square foot mansion and use 10 times as much electricity as I do. Or have a 100 foot long house boat with many times the carbon impact as my modest home. It is not the Larsb's of the country I have a problem with. It is the "Do as I say, Not as I DO" GW alarmists from NYC, Washington DC and Hollywood, I have an issue with. |
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 22, 2008 7:54 am) So now (since we kilt GOD) it's mudder hood, muddled nature, apple pie, global climate change. Again I have no problem with a passenger vehicle that runs on H20 and a tank lasting almost a lifetime. It is just not on the market and for obvious reasons. Our continuing to ignore the US being literally exponentially better than the Saudia Arabia of COAL: we do at our own peril and  extreme threat to our own national security.
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to soon being climate. It seems that it is not just one area on one day that is colder than normal, as proponents of GW love to use that excuse to dismiss new data! http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Deroy+Murdock%3a+Baby%2c+it%27s- +cold+outside%2c+no+matter+what+Al+Gore+says&articleId=b5668d53-404e-4f91-9356-9- 1cba0117933 Because of this continued "GW" my combustion of fosil fuels is increasing (running low on wood, and just ordered 200 gal of oil). Snow from Nov - April (6 months) year after year does not convince me of any GW!
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 22, 2008 7:21 am) People just can't start presenting theories and misinformation as scientific fact and expect others not to oppose/expose them. Don't you agree?
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Replying to: houdini1 (Dec 22, 2008 12:10 pm) But so is "Poo Poo, Man has no effect at all" the wrong attitude. What got me leaning the "Pro-GW" way in the first place was not AlGore or any of his ilk. ( He and his Carbon Credits can bite me.) It was simply reading the NASA temperature records and noticing how from 1980-2007, 23 of the 28 years had been "above the norm" since measurements started in 1880. And yes, I KNOW THAT'S A SMALL SAMPLING. I'm not going to get into that fact. What it DOES show me is a trend of warmth. I'd like to know the cause of the trend. If it's something Man is doing, then let's try to fix it. If not, let's find out what it is. Regardless, we need to be better stewards of our planet, or the aliens might send Klaatu and Gort down to erase us.
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 22, 2008 7:21 am) And yet there are some who would bankrupt us individually and our country as a whole based on this incomplete and most likely, bogus theory. Let's put it in to another context. Let's say that creation scientists proclaim that if we all don't fall in line behind their theory, the earth will be doomed. In addition these creationists say we should levy an "evolution tax" upon all people even if this means some of them will starve. It's for their own good, they will say, because "we creationists have a consensus that our way is the right way". Now let's say that the creationist's friends in the news media label everyone who disagrees as a "denier" and dismisses everything they have to say. Wouldn't it be frightening to live in a world like that? |
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Dec 22, 2008 4:12 pm) |
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Dec 22, 2008 4:12 pm) Food for thought. I would say more people in the World believe in Creation by a higher being than believe in GW/CC caused by man. In fact the very small minority that believe we are doomed if we don't all pay into the Carbon Credit scam, are wielding a mighty big stick over the rest of us. Anyone claiming a consensus of opinion, is not to be trusted. It just means they, and a few friends have this theory. I am sure that many of the scientist that believe in the CC by man theory are sincere. That does not make them right.
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