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Automotive News & Views Are automobiles a major cause of global warming?
6918 messages, Last post on Dec 03, 2009 at 8:23 AM
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 20, 2008 8:43 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 20, 2008 9:34 am) The question is not how many of X you sell---the questions are: a) did you make any profit? and b) was the product good enough to inspire a repeat buyer? and c) is your competition catching up with you?
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 20, 2008 9:38 am) To borrow an Iaccocca line: we have jobs  lower per hour rates and NONE at higher per hour rates! The Congress pretty much said you have a job at the HIGHER dollar rates, just higher the newbies at the lower rates!!!! WE OK NOW !!!!????   So yeah I am just waiting to buy my American car with a IRS tax credit $15,000 and a discount voucher for 10-15k. Why shouldn't the real owners get the bene's !??? 
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 20, 2008 9:40 am) I didn't notice that AIG had any labor rate restrictions placed on them when they got their $$$. the government forced business into being health car providers in the first place, way back when. The problem is that America does not view health care as a basic human need or right, and so this problem will just continue to fester. Personally, I think a healthy and contented workforce is going to be absolutely necessary in the 21st century's struggle for economic success among nations. Socialism works great for the NBA and NFL. I don't see why the Big Three can't do it.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 20, 2008 10:34 am) Well comrade, shoots down the evolution theory eh? Since we are on vehicles, hard to be profitable when labor is 2x the competition eh? Again really not a problem if they can sell the typical (there is no typical) for discussion purposes 40k suv for 80k and the competition (you know the ones with the lower labor rates) keeps selling theirs at 40k???? I am sure it does not take much explanation to know where that would go...????
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 20, 2008 10:41 am) Well those examples are already monopolies and the unions, aka UAW are also. How far do you think you'd get as an "independent" union if say the UAW was YOUR competition!? |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 20, 2008 8:43 am) Well if science wants an issue, and we want to throw money at something, Maybe people on the East Coast would like something done about this. http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2000/mega_tsunami.shtml Or something more serious which all you have to do is look at the moon. GW is insignificant compared to the environmental change a major comet or asteroid impact would make. I'd rather see the money that is and would be spent on GW put towards finding and defending against these hazards. These are known, proven hazards, not a minor issue of warming a few degrees - which I for one would find beneficial.
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Replying to: kernick (Dec 20, 2008 11:09 am) Just like a politician. They have been promising it would get warmer for close to 20 years. All we get is snow in Vegas and Malibu. Big Liars. How many people were killed in the earthquake and tsunami back in 2004. Many of those countries did not even have Tsunami warning systems in place. So more than 225,000 people died as a result of poor planning. There is no need to plan for a rise in water levels from GW. If it starts to rise and it is filling your basement. Sell the house and move to higher ground. No reason for anyone to die as a result of GW. The same sort of people that push the GW alarmist theory, also like the diminishing oil theory. So if they are right about fossil fuel running out that should solve the CO2 problem. No need to do anything about GW. Many scientist say it is too late to avoid the GW problem. So why waste money we as a government DO NOT HAVE TO WASTE? As you say we keep getting colder and not warmer.
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 20, 2008 11:57 am) I don't think huge industrial countries have the luxury of letting nature decide issues for us. When nature decides for us, it's never pretty. But maybe America needs to spend some time in the Dark Ages. Might do us some good.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 20, 2008 12:04 pm) There might be some truth to this. For example the northeast for all they squawk about C02 emissions and energy consumption etc are THE biggest users of energy and C02 emissions. It has been more than obvious Hurricane Katrina (LA, MS) almost curtailed the oil supply to the N/E !! Not to let algae grow under them, "environmentalists" like Sen Ted Kennedy put the kybosh on wind turbine farms foundationed in salt water. GW/GCC advocates instead of getting ready for the FLOOD OF NYC (their crisis, not mine) continue to build! in the EXACT areas projected to FLOOD! ? Kyoto Accord green lights China (India also) goal of a min of 300 M new vehicles that have lower emissions standards and higher fuel consumption than Europe or the USA! The list goes on and on. But indeed these pale in comparison to stuff that truly have not happened yet like say the dormant HUGE volcano aka Yellowstone National Park decides to erupt! The Indonesian Tsunami was indeed caused by undersea earthquakes (non GW/GCC) link title |
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