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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 19, 2008 11:25 am) I think part of the problem people have with grasping what GW really is about, is that the modern materialistic, post-industrial mind has a lot of trouble understanding how everything is in fact connected to everything else. And really, a "weatherman" is hardly an expert on Global Warming. Once again, "weather is not climate". And man did not descend from monkeys, no matter what the history of the British Automotive Industry. 
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 19, 2008 11:29 am) AND they are requesting YOUR carbon credits,... even as we speak !!!
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 19, 2008 11:29 am)  
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Replying to: lemmer (Dec 19, 2008 9:15 am) You don't think the creationists want to change the lifestyle of other people? Not so much lifestyle as they would like you to believe as they do Honestly? And for the money argument - creationists don't want our money? Really? You want to hang your hat on that? Absolutely! I would not associate with any organization that imposes a monetary burden on me against my will. This is not like the US government that extracts money from my paycheck each month. There is a huge difference between voluntary giving and extorting money for some carbon credit scheme |
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Replying to: kernick (Dec 19, 2008 10:24 am) The Earth was flat. The Sun rotated about the Earth which was the centre of all creation. To dispute the latter was heresy and people died for their beliefs. Creationists worry me, but so do all extremists. The whole ACC scam is more of the same but played out by better publicists for global power, control and wealth. Truly the hardliners in this debate/scam are, at best, totally deluded and, at worst, totally immoral. The truth will out........but at what cost, I wonder ?
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Replying to: alltorque (Dec 19, 2008 12:45 pm) Maybe we are less biased, but we sure don't have much else going for us.
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Replying to: lemmer (Dec 19, 2008 1:41 pm) I'm not 100% convinced of anything. The issue is, since about 1990 we have politicians trying to pass Global mandates that will adversely affect our quality of life. Those Laws and proposed treaties (Kyoto) are based on a few findings and a lot of speculation. When scientist are told not to present findings that go contrary to the political winds, I get real skeptical. There is a lot of talk on how GW Bush has kept a lid on GW. Well it is not too difficult to find scientists that were told what to say during Bill Clinton's Presidency. Most of the UN hoopla over GW edicts is getting cash from the biggest producer of GHG. That would be US. Trouble is we ain't got any spare cash. We been borrowing from our children's piggy bank for the last 30 years. If 2008 turns out to be the coldest year since good records were kept, It will completely shoot Man Made CC/GW out of the water. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 19, 2008 2:11 pm) link title
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 19, 2008 2:19 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 19, 2008 3:04 pm) 50 years from now when the strip Al Gore of his Nobel prize, posthumously, I hope it is not too traumatic on his grandchildren, freezing in their 11,000 square foot mansion in Tennessee with solar heat that is no longer working.
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