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Are automobiles a major cause of global warming?

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Re: The biggest laugher [gagrice] by larsb
Dec 10, 2008 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 10, 2008 1:14 pm)

There are people with the intent to deceive.
 
But it did not START like that.
 
The data was out there showing the warming and AlGore and his ilk made a cash-grab using the VALID DATA.
 
Then the VALID DATA got disputed and other groups now have VALID DATA.
 
That's why there is no overall intent to deceive. The data is there. The warming is REAL.
 
That arctic ice is not melting it's own self.
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Re: The biggest laugher [gagrice] by larsb
Dec 10, 2008 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 10, 2008 1:14 pm)

The warming is REAL.
 
The CAUSE of the warming is the debated issue.
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Re: The biggest laugher [larsb] by gagrice
Dec 10, 2008 (2:10 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 10, 2008 1:18 pm)

You must not have gotten the word while traveling. The earth has not warmed AT ALL in the last 10 years. It is cooler. We are headed to an ice age. Better bundle up.
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Re: The biggest laugher [gagrice] by larsb
Dec 10, 2008 (2:28 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 10, 2008 2:10 pm)

Like I said.....
 
Duelling data.
 
1998 1.24 .52
 1999 .94 .71
 2000 .54 .81
 2001 .78 .67
 2002 .55 .57
 2003 .53 .60
 2004 .46 .68
 2005 .71 .74
 2006 1.15 *
 2007 .84 *
 
Every year in the last ten years in the USA has been above the "since 1880" annual mean.
 
That's from NASA.
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More on warming by larsb
Dec 10, 2008 (2:32 pm)
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Article from TODAY:
 
Earf has warmed in last 30 years
 
Huntsville, AL (AHN) - Globally, the Earth's atmosphere has warmed an average of about 0.72 degrees Fahrenheit (0.4 C) in 30 years, according to data collected from NOAA and NASA satellites. Over 80 percent of the planet has warmed by some measure.
 
Half of the globe has warmed at least half a degree Fahrenheit, and a quarter of the planet has warmed by at least one degree Fahrenheit, according to John Christy, a professor of atmospheric science and director of the Earth System Science Center (ESSC) at the University of Alabama in Huntsville.
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The new hire by steve_ HOST
Dec 10, 2008 (4:34 pm)
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"He was an early advocate of finding scientific solutions to combat climate change, according to the Berkeley Lab Web site. And during his tenure there, he has worked to make the Berkeley facility a world leader in alternative and renewable energy research, particularly with the development of carbon-neutral energy sources."
 
Nobel physicist Steven Chu in line for energy post (Chron.com)
 
"As global warming warnings grow more dire, Chu is currently pushing his scientists at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and industry to develop technologies to reverse climate change." (Wikipedia)
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Re: The new hire [steve_] by ruking1
Dec 10, 2008 (4:48 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 10, 2008 4:34 pm)

GO BEARS !!!
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Re: The biggest laugher [larsb] by bpeebles
Dec 10, 2008 (5:46 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 10, 2008 2:28 pm)

You are forgetting the MARS data again!!! Read the past appends.
 
To 'normalize' your data... one needs to SUBTRACT the amount that MARS has also warmed up due to the sun putting out more heat. After normalizing your data... the Earth is not really getting much warmer than any of our neighboring planets.
 
Lets not get into humans causing the Sun to get hotter...
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Re: The biggest laugher [bpeebles] by ruking1
Dec 10, 2008 (6:39 pm)
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Replying to: bpeebles (Dec 10, 2008 5:46 pm)

Can't wait to see the entertainment when they start parading the vestal virgins around.
 
link title
 
We finally have someone to blame for all those C02 emitting rituals.
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Re: The new hire [ruking1] by steve_ HOST
Dec 10, 2008 (6:41 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 10, 2008 4:48 pm)

lol, the Bear Flag Republic hasn't even seen a grizzly bear since 1922, unless you count the one on the flag.

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