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This movie was first made back around 1951 but a new version is slated to open this weekend. The original was about an alien who landed here to warn us that our wars and atom bombs would eventually destroy us all so we better cut it out. The new version is similar but our crime this time is that we are destroying Mother Earth by man made global warming and pollution etc..... so we better cut this out. Mostly youngsters go to see these sci-fi movies and I am sure that after being beat over the head for a couple of hours with this nonsense they will all be converted to the Hollywood version of our global warming sins. |
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This is the biggest laugher: "When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists." That's the funniest thing in the report. No one is going to feel "deceived" because there was never any attempt to deceive. We are never going to "know the truth" because both sides will always have data to support their view.
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 10, 2008 1:04 pm) How can you be so sure? Greed causes people to deceive other people all the time. From the start of the man made GW hysteria it smelled of greed and deception to me. If you believed it you were deceived. Whether you feel it or not.
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 10, 2008 1:14 pm) But it did not START like that. The data was out there showing the warming and AlGore and his ilk made a cash-grab using the VALID DATA. Then the VALID DATA got disputed and other groups now have VALID DATA. That's why there is no overall intent to deceive. The data is there. The warming is REAL. That arctic ice is not melting it's own self. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 10, 2008 1:14 pm) The CAUSE of the warming is the debated issue.
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 10, 2008 1:18 pm) |
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 10, 2008 2:10 pm) Duelling data. 1998 1.24 .52 1999 .94 .71 2000 .54 .81 2001 .78 .67 2002 .55 .57 2003 .53 .60 2004 .46 .68 2005 .71 .74 2006 1.15 * 2007 .84 * Every year in the last ten years in the USA has been above the "since 1880" annual mean. That's from NASA.
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Article from TODAY: Earf has warmed in last 30 years Huntsville, AL (AHN) - Globally, the Earth's atmosphere has warmed an average of about 0.72 degrees Fahrenheit (0.4 C) in 30 years, according to data collected from NOAA and NASA satellites. Over 80 percent of the planet has warmed by some measure. Half of the globe has warmed at least half a degree Fahrenheit, and a quarter of the planet has warmed by at least one degree Fahrenheit, according to John Christy, a professor of atmospheric science and director of the Earth System Science Center (ESSC) at the University of Alabama in Huntsville. |
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"He was an early advocate of finding scientific solutions to combat climate change, according to the Berkeley Lab Web site. And during his tenure there, he has worked to make the Berkeley facility a world leader in alternative and renewable energy research, particularly with the development of carbon-neutral energy sources." Nobel physicist Steven Chu in line for energy post (Chron.com) "As global warming warnings grow more dire, Chu is currently pushing his scientists at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and industry to develop technologies to reverse climate change." (Wikipedia)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 10, 2008 4:34 pm)
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