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Re: Climate Change Ignorance [steve_] by kernick
Dec 08, 2008 (5:03 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 08, 2008 9:44 am)

they'll be tossing tea in the harbor.
 
You sure you didn't mean oil from a tanker? I'll burn some extra wood and oil tonight to make up for any canceled flights. Temps. in the single-digits tonite again; but that's just weather every year.
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Re: Climate Change Ignorance [kernick] by steve_ HOST
Dec 08, 2008 (5:21 pm)
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Replying to: kernick (Dec 08, 2008 5:03 pm)

Bogus has about 4" but it didn't open until 12/20 last year. Hard frost and an inch in town last night. Everyone talks about it but no one does anything about it.
 
But there's always Al Gore.
 
How about this - Al for Auto Czar?
 
"The [bailout] program would be overseen by an official, tapped by President George W. Bush, whom congressional aides and lawmakers describe as an "auto czar." This person would act as a kind of trustee with authority to bring together labor, management, creditors and parts suppliers to negotiate a restructuring plan. He or she also would be able to review any transaction or contract valued at more than $25 million."
 
WSJ
 
Before you laugh too hard, Al did meet with POTUS-elect Obama the other day.
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Re: Climate Change Ignorance [steve_] by ruking1
Dec 08, 2008 (5:48 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 08, 2008 5:21 pm)

It would have been interesting to be a C02 pocket cluster on that wall !
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Re: Climate Change Ignorance [steve_] by gagrice
Dec 08, 2008 (5:51 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 08, 2008 5:21 pm)

I would think that if the Bush administration goes along with the bill, he would pick someone that Obama would keep in the job. Big AL would be as rough on the Big 3 as Ralph Nader. Here is a tough pill for the automakers to swallow. CA could say you have to build only ZEV cars and they are out of business overnight.
 
One danger for auto makers is exposing the industry to congressional meddling as it attempts to build a new business model. The legislation, among other things, would bar the companies from participating in legal challenges to state laws designed to impose limits on greenhouse-gas emissions. The White House opposes that provision, congressional aides said.
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Re: Climate Change Ignorance [gagrice] by steve_ HOST
Dec 08, 2008 (6:13 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 08, 2008 5:51 pm)

Well, if you don't like Gore, there's always Dingle's wife.
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Re: Climate Change Ignorance [steve_] by ruking1
Dec 08, 2008 (6:20 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 08, 2008 6:13 pm)

Now is she pro old CAFE standards, to LET'S get rid of CAFE standards?
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Re: Climate Change Ignorance [ruking1] by steve_ HOST
Dec 08, 2008 (6:26 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 08, 2008 6:20 pm)

Depends on who's buying.
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Camel Burgers & Roo Kabobs to save the planet by gagrice
Dec 09, 2008 (9:07 pm)
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Australians were urged Tuesday to eat camels to stop them wreaking environmental havoc, just months after being told to save the world from climate change by consuming kangaroos.
 
A three-year study has found that Australia's population of more than a million feral camels -- the largest wild herd on earth -- is out of control and damaging fragile desert ecosystems and water sources.
 
The Desert Knowledge Cooperative Research Centre, which produced the report, plans to serve camel meat at a barbecue for senior public servants in Canberra on Wednesday to press its point.
 
Report co-author Professor Murray McGregor said a good way to bring down the number of camels was to eat them.
 
"Eat a camel today, I've done it," he told the national AAP news agency.
 
"It's beautiful meat. It's a bit like beef. It's as lean as lean, it's an excellent health food."
 
Similar claims are made for kangaroo meat, but the rationale for farming and eating the national emblem -- as outlined by the government's chief climate change adviser in October -- is different.
 
Millions of farm animals such as cows and sheep produce massive amounts of harmful greenhouse gases, said Professor Ross Garnaut, but kangaroos emit negligible amounts of methane.

 
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=081209070110.gs8vvzpt&show_article=1
 
What will PETA say??
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Re: Camel Burgers & Roo Kabobs to save the planet [gagrice] by ruking1
Dec 10, 2008 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 09, 2008 9:07 pm)

Just remember,... that is a can do easy!
 
60 M American buffalo roamed the US plains a short time ago. In a shorter time span, they were down to a herd of less than 2,000 (est).
 
I guess that saved us from CLIMATE CHANGE before climate change was cool !! (warm to be PC)
 
Where are the Camel Bill's ?
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UN Blowback: by gagrice
Dec 10, 2008 (10:45 am)
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More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 
Study: Half of warming due to Sun! –Sea Levels Fail to Rise? -
Warming Fears in 'Dustbin of History'

 
POZNAN, Poland - The UN global warming conference currently underway in Poland is about to face a serious challenge from over 650 dissenting scientists from around the globe who are criticizing the climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore. Set for release this week, a newly updated U.S. Senate Minority Report features the dissenting voices of over 650 international scientists, many current and former UN IPCC scientists, who have now turned against the UN. The report has added about 250 scientists (and growing) in 2008 to the over 400 scientists who spoke out in 2007. The over 650 dissenting scientists are more than 12 times the number of UN scientists (52) who authored the media hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers.
 
A hint of what the upcoming report contains:
 
“I am a skeptic…Global warming has become a new religion.” - Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.
 
“Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly….As a scientist I remain skeptical.” - Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called “among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.”
 
Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history…When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” - UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist.

 
Lots more:
 
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_i- - d=2158072e-802a-23ad-45f0-274616db87e6

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