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Re: Hide your wallets folks the GW cops want your money [oldfarmer50] by gagrice
Dec 05, 2008 (5:29 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Dec 05, 2008 4:48 pm)

I had a couple thoughts on this latest ignorance out of DC. Maybe by putting a limit on how many animals you can have before you pay the fart tax will encourage small farms. Without that tax a dairy farmer with only 24 cows could compete against the guy with 100s paying $175 per year per cow. PETA and the VEGANS need to be run out of the country. What a bunch of losers. If someone wants to destroy their system with an unbalanced diet. Fine, just don't try to force it on those with common sense.
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Re: Hide your wallets folks the GW cops want your money [gagrice] by ruking1
Dec 05, 2008 (5:52 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 05, 2008 5:29 pm)

Indeed for the last 50 years that I know of, the goal has been to DECREASE the number of farmers by attrition. One time honored tool of attrition has been to extend loans Fed, State, County and Local the ultimate goal to reclaim the land when those loans inevitably can not be paid back. Others ways have been to make the cost of water so high as to be uneconomical, if that is not enough increase swer rates to uneconomical levels. So, some lucky farmers close to urban boundaries can/ will sell farm land to developers who will urban plan it for uses " other than farmland" and build whatever projects, the local city, county, state, fed even, etc. wants instead. So now they are trying the environmental eviction/economic angle. One more tool in the destruction tool box.
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Re: Hide your wallets folks the GW cops want your money [oldfarmer50] by houdini1
Dec 05, 2008 (8:08 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Dec 05, 2008 4:48 pm)

"...belching and flatulence amounts to air pollution..."
 
Maybe we can apply that rule to our politicians....
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Re: Hide your wallets folks the GW cops want your money [ruking1] by kernick
Dec 06, 2008 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 05, 2008 5:52 pm)

Just 1 more power grab by our governments. They have the ability to take whatever money they want from us thru property and income taxes, are paid for by lobbyists and other local wealthy people, and can make laws all in the name of "doing good" thru some convoluted theory they create.
 
And God-forbid if you want the freedom to own land, and make choices against this subjective "doing good" theory.
 
I guess we should be happy that we're not living 2,000 years ago and this same sort of political and societal power didn't force us to "do good" by casting our daughter into the volcano.
 
If this were a free country, I might be tempted to say we need a revolution to get rid of our 20M, bureaucratic system that is planning and running our lives, and breaking us ($) while doing so.
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Re: Hide your wallets folks the GW cops want your money [kernick] by ruking1
Dec 06, 2008 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: kernick (Dec 06, 2008 8:46 am)

I think even the most extreme environmental extremist knows some level their nirvana is a mirror of HELL. So for example if NYC can be considered a ecco nirvana, what do people REALLY think/envision will happen if NYC ACTUALLY KEPT cars and trucks out of NYC proper?
 
( AKA take the limousine off the limousine liberals?)
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Re: Hide your wallets folks the GW cops want your money [ruking1] by gagrice
Dec 06, 2008 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 06, 2008 9:03 am)

They could outlaw all but those bicycle rickshaws. Put a lot of healthy young people to work. Sorry no carriages, due to horse farts being illegal in the city limits.
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Emissons down. Under. by steve_ HOST
Dec 06, 2008 (11:09 am)
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"Coskata claims its ethanol has the potential to reduce lifecycle greenhouse-gas emissions by up to 84 percent compared to conventional gasoline."
 
Aussie Automaker Holden Says It's Seeking Alternative Fuel From Lawn Clippings
 
Not much hope for me. I don't have a yard and my switchgrass plant isn't thriving.
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Doomsday by Algore by motorcity6
Dec 07, 2008 (10:59 am)
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On 1/27/2006, Algore said "We have 10 yrs left to save the planet from a scorching", We are down to 7yrs and a month..More nonsense from the lefthand, and their paid Climatologists...Folks, wake up, smell the roses, the only warming is the chatter from the lefthand in seizing power..And grabbing your money..Selling carbon credits and heading our life style to the trash dump..
 
They are after tailpipes---cars, trucks, Suvs, cattle, pigs, and anything that flatulents..The Democrats are inflated with self-importance, pompous, and pretentious---flatulent oratory...
 
EPA has been guided to nail the Big3 by setting mileage stds and emissions stds..Our liberal Congress despises capitalism, however, their liberal buddies, Lawyers, are happy with the system for they can sue the moral crap out of corporations, fat settlements in their pockets, and contribute back hefty sums to the Democratic party to keep the game going..Look at the cigarette settlement, only took them 30 yrs, but they keep hammering away at the health hazard, however they will never outlaw cigatettes..It's a cash cow for lawyers and tax revenue for Congress..
 
Lawyers representing the Global Warming crowd has crippled America's future and the "Change" mantra from the pres-elect will erode our freedoms further..In 2012 you will be after another "CHANGE", back to the good old days.
 
GM & Chrysler will be gone..SUVS and P/Us was 50% of their production and the cash cows, the eco-crowd hates our manufacturing base of the Motorcity, and the anti-war crowd wants our military dissolved. Our Military by 2011 will be used to protect our politicans from the general population..
 
Public works will be in full force..Govt will be forced to print money to pay the way for Socialism, for the tax revenues will dry up..No industry, no growth, and the poor will be poorer and the rich will be okay...
 
The Global Warming hoax was used in the 20s and 30s and you see what happened in Europe.. WWII..USSR went broke on the communism deal and started on the Capitalism binge, China likes Capitalism too, however it is hard to keep the population under wraps with the manufacturing bige, people like and want freedom..
 
It's damn cold in Florida this winter, so everybody please go start your internal combustion engine and warm us up..
 
Wait until gas prices start going up and the Left hand starts talking about excess-profits, and possibile govt take-over of the oil industry..Makes a good story-line in appealing to the hearts of the left-hand voters...Right-on baby..
 
Compare government to an M-1 tank, it crushs every thing it fires at or runs over!!!
 
Mother Nature takes care of the Earth and trumps Govt every time...The Gore family fortune was made in oil companies, mainly Occidental Petr, sold out when oil reached $147/barrel,then switched over to the business of carbon credits, windmills, solar panels, and green anything. He's on a roll, just taking the $$$$$ out of your pockets..
 
I can see the day when "Termites" will be on the Endangered Species List..
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Climate Change Ignorance by gagrice
Dec 08, 2008 (9:20 am)
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Al Gore should be held accountable for inciting people to this kind of religious fervor. His movie of lies has warped the little minds of the World. This kind of activity will become more prevalent unless stiff penalties are handed down. The UK seems to be a Mecca for the GW/CC Cultist.
 
Passengers' fury as climate change protest at Stansted airport forces dozens of flights to be cancelled
 
Climate change protesters stormed Stansted Airport today in an astonishing breach of security that brought flights to a standstill.
 
More than 50 protesters from the Plane Stupid group cut through fencing in the early hours before chaining themselves together just yards from the runway.
 
Thousands of furious passengers left stranded after dozens of flights were cancelled and others seriously delayed had to be kept calm by armed police.
 
The incident, which is hugely embarrassing for airport operator BAA, is believed to be the first time demonstrators have managed to occupy one of Britain's major airports.

 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1092783/Passengers-fury-climate-change-p- - rotest-Stansted-airport-forces-dozens-flights-cancelled.html
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Re: Climate Change Ignorance [gagrice] by kernick
Dec 08, 2008 (9:35 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 08, 2008 9:20 am)

More than 50 protesters from the Plane Stupid group cut through fencing in the early hours before chaining themselves together just yards from the runway.
 
I'm always amazed at how these environmental groups use fascist tactics, to try and force others to agree with them. Maybe next time they can bring some Molotov cocktails and burn some planes?
 
Just another group of people who don't understand that people have the freedom to choose, and respect others' freedoms.

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