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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Dec 04, 2008 4:49 pm)  Can't buy em if they either outlaw them, ban them or restrict them. Keep in mind most of the good turbo diesel SUV's are made by Kyoto signer countries.
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For those that think the GW Cult is not in this for the money, just hang on. BOB JOHNSON, Associated Press Writer – Fri Dec 5, 4:43 am ET MONTGOMERY, Ala. – For farmers, this stinks: Belching and gaseous cows and hogs could start costing them money if a federal proposal to charge fees for air-polluting animals becomes law. Farmers so far are turning their noses up at the notion, which is one of several put forward by the Environmental Protection Agency after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2007 that greenhouse gases emitted by belching and flatulence amounts to air pollution. "This is one of the most ridiculous things the federal government has tried to do," said Alabama Agriculture Commissioner Ron Sparks, an outspoken opponent of the proposal. It would require farms or ranches with more than 25 dairy cows, 50 beef cattle or 200 hogs to pay an annual fee of about $175 for each dairy cow, $87.50 per head of beef cattle and $20 for each hog. The executive vice president of the Wyoming Farm Bureau Federation, Ken Hamilton, estimated the fee would cost owners of a modest-sized cattle ranch $30,000 to $40,000 a year. He said he has talked to a number of livestock owners about the proposals, and "all have said if the fees were carried out, it would bankrupt them." It is our STINKING EPA gone crazy. It will only get worse.
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 05, 2008 2:01 pm) No taxes on the land.... grow green!!  
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 05, 2008 2:01 pm) That is similar to a proposal here in NY to consider each farm animal as a "point source" of pollution. That was the radical Vegan's plan to bankrupt farmers by making them pay penalties as if each cow was a toxic waste dump. Pure insanity by people who's idea of nature is a Disney movie.  Perhaps we should outlaw Vegans as it has been shown that a non-animal diet results in more belching and flatulence.
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Dec 05, 2008 4:48 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 05, 2008 5:29 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Dec 05, 2008 4:48 pm) Maybe we can apply that rule to our politicians.... |
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 05, 2008 5:52 pm) And God-forbid if you want the freedom to own land, and make choices against this subjective "doing good" theory. I guess we should be happy that we're not living 2,000 years ago and this same sort of political and societal power didn't force us to "do good" by casting our daughter into the volcano. If this were a free country, I might be tempted to say we need a revolution to get rid of our 20M, bureaucratic system that is planning and running our lives, and breaking us ($) while doing so.
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Replying to: kernick (Dec 06, 2008 8:46 am)  some level their nirvana is a mirror of HELL. So for example if NYC can be considered a ecco nirvana, what do people REALLY think/envision will happen if NYC ACTUALLY KEPT cars and trucks out of NYC proper? ( AKA take the limousine off the limousine liberals?)
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