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Was this really necessary? Or just another STATE (etc) revenue source? Just got back from a "SMOG ONLY" vendor. The test was done on a 15 year old SUV. Here are some actual measurements: Emissions Control Systems Visual Inspection/Functional Check Results, passed 18/18 tests Visual Inspection (Pass), Functional Check (Pass), Emissions Test (Pass) Idle Emission Test Results 863 rpm, (%co2-14.6) ,(%02-0.3), HC (ppm) (MAX 100, AVE 26, MEASURED 0 (ZERO) , ) CO (%) (MAX 1.00 AVE 0.00 MEAS 0.00) 2649 rpm, (%co2-14.5), (%02-0.5) , HC(ppm) ( MAX 180, AVE 11, MEAS 1) C0 (%) (MAX 1.10 AVE 0.10 MEAS 0.00) It is advertised as a RANDOM test (over a certain amount of years). I however have gotten in effect a BI ANNUAL mandatory random inspections cycle. This is the FOURTH one by the way.
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 01, 2008 11:52 am) b.) just another state revenue source. I vote for b.) If your state is like mine they test all cars, but anything built before 1996 doesn't have the right computers so when they test those older cars they come back with ZERO emissions. Kind of like interrogating someone who's deaf and blind about what they saw. But they get your fee so they don't care. Makes you wonder what the real motivation about all the GW crapola is. |
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Staging a global forum on climate change is a dilemma, as it adds to the very problem it is trying to solve. Around 13,000 tonnes of carbon dioxide (CO2) will be added to the Earth's greenhouse effect from the December 1-12 meeting of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, the UNFCCC said. That estimate is based on a turnout of 8,000 people, but as of Sunday 10,657 people had registered for the talks. Poland, which is hosting the meeting, "plans to offset the total emissions resulting from the conference once a final calculation has been made," the UNFCCC said. Under offsets, anyone emitting carbon can invest in a scheme that mitigates the pollution by the same amount. Typical projects involve reforestation or transferring cleaner technology to developing countries in order to ease their own emissions of greenhouse gases. The Mango trees planted to offset the GHG put out by the Global Warming Concert Tour all died from lack of water. Guess that was not such a great plan by the head Guru Al Gore. I can tell them that planting trees in the Arctic will not help bring back the ice. It is best to plant indigenous trees to avoid future eco damage.
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 01, 2008 7:58 pm) And a self-deluding scheme at that. Why? Because the conference and the planting-of-trees are independent events. While they may cancel each other out; the option exists to have a net decrease! simply plant-trees and have no conference. So the conference is still doing harm, as it does not allow a decrease to occur! Meanwhile some people in Brazil or Indonesia are cutting the rainforests to make furniture or flooring. And myself and others will be cutting trees for firewood, if there are taxes put on heating fuel or electricity. People are already doing so with the costs and shape of the economy. http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/2008-12-01-firewood_N.htm
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Replying to: kernick (Dec 02, 2008 6:38 am) Weyerhaeuser has been reforesting Brazil for many years. I just installed 1300 feet of Lyptus Wood from Brazil. It grows to commercial size in 15 years. It is harder than hard rock maple or Brazilian Cherry. It was used as cutting boards to start with. Now you can get it for furniture, cabinets and flooring. Beautiful stuff and eco friendly. http://www.lyptus.com/ 
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 02, 2008 7:12 am) With all the bamboo clothing showing up, I expect to see some bamboo fabric in a new car as well as 'boo dash kits.
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 02, 2008 7:21 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 02, 2008 8:05 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 02, 2008 8:05 am) The fabric supposedly isn't very durable but the trim in the X5 should be fine. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 01, 2008 7:58 pm) So I can let my lawn grow and cancel out a couple of SUVs. Great idea. "...The Mango trees...all died..." That is so typical of the earth worshipers. They understand nothing about nature. I wouldn't put it past them to plant palm trees in Alaska so the polar bears have some shade. |
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