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Re: UFO's... [iluvmysephia1] by ruking1
Nov 29, 2008 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 29, 2008 9:57 am)

YUP ! I guess Sasquatches have "evolved" into NOT... S--Ting in the woods. Can't even find that !! So where do they? The truth is out there !
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Indeed... by iluvmysephia1
Nov 29, 2008 (10:09 am)
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they find large footprints but no...Sasquatch poop. Indulge yourself to think about thoughts like that for a few seconds.
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More folks coming to their senses by gagrice
Nov 29, 2008 (12:22 pm)
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Efforts to support global climate-change falls: Poll
Peter O'Neil, Europe Correspondent, Canwest News Service
Published: Thursday, November 27, 2008
 
PARIS - There is both growing public reluctance to make personal sacrifices and a distinct lack of enthusiasm for the major international efforts now underway to battle climate change, according to findings of a poll of 12,000 citizens in 11 countries, including Canada.
 
Results of the poll were released this week in advance of the start of a major international conference in Poland where delegates are considering steps toward a new international climate-change treaty to replace the Kyoto Protocol, which expires in 2012.
 
There already are reports emerging that some countries, such as coal-dependent Poland, are pushing for special treatment to avoid making major commitments to slash carbon emissions during a global economic downturn.
 
Less than half of those surveyed, or 47 per cent, said they were prepared to make personal lifestyle changes to reduce carbon emissions, down from 58 per cent last year.
 
Only 37 per cent said they were willing to spend "extra time" on the effort, an eight-point drop.
 
And only one in five respondents - or 20 per cent - said they'd spend extra money to reduce climate change. That's down from 28 per cent a year ago.
 
The Canadian results, from a poll of 1,000 respondents conducted in September, were virtually identical to the overall figures. There are no comparative figures for Canada because Canadians weren't included in the global study in 2007.

 
http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/story.html?id=f0a1687c-decd-4c72-9d0e-7e6- dd92d4ebe
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Re: More folks coming to their senses [gagrice] by ruking1
Nov 29, 2008 (12:29 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 29, 2008 12:22 pm)

..."And only one in five respondents - or 20 per cent - said they'd spend extra money to reduce climate change. That's down from 28 per cent a year ago. "...
 
The new Obama regime should be crafting ways to put them into a special minority group for full exploitation !!!! AKA raise only this minority groups taxation !!!
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Re: More folks coming to their senses [ruking1] by gagrice
Nov 29, 2008 (12:45 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 29, 2008 12:29 pm)

Will the silly 20% raise your hands. Have I got a big carbon credit to sell you... With this in your wallet you can drive your SUV anywhere you like. It includes a bumper sticker so ELF won't torch your car while you are at a complimentary Al Gore speech. The first 10 to sign up get to spend a weekend on the Al Gore GHG yacht.
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Re: More folks coming to their senses [gagrice] by oldfarmer50
Nov 29, 2008 (2:02 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 29, 2008 12:45 pm)

"...With this in your wallet you can drive your SUV anywhere you like..."
 
Don't laugh, in Australia some of the more radical GW cultists have proposed requiring a permit to drive ANY vehicle outside of the city you live in. They also propose taxing vacations taken by car.
 
But I'm sure it's for our own good.
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Time to fight back against Eco-terrorism by gagrice
Nov 30, 2008 (8:16 am)
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Who do these nut cases think they are? I don't want some wacko from SF, NYC or London telling me when I can warm myself with a fire in my fireplace. We need to lock them all inside a warehouse with several SUVs running.
 
By Louise Gray, Environment Correspondent
Last Updated: 1:29PM GMT 28 Nov 2008
 
Stephen Hockman QC is proposing a body similar to the International Court of Justice in The Hague to be the supreme legal authority on issues regarding the environment.
 
The first role of the new body would be to enforce international agreements on cutting greenhouse gas emissions set to be agreed next year.
 
But the court would also fine countries or companies that fail to protect endangered species or degrade the natural environment and enforce the "right to a healthy environment".
 
The innovative idea is being presented to an audience of politicians, scientists and public figures for the first time at a symposium at the British Library.
 
Mr Hockman, a deputy High Court judge, said that the threat of climate change means it is more important than ever for the law to protect the environment.
 
The UN Climate Change Conference in Poznan, Poland this month is set to begin negotiations that will lead to a new agreement to replace the Kyoto Protocol in Copenhagen next year. Developed countries are expected to commit to cutting emissions drastically, while developing countries agree to halt deforestation.
 
Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister, has agreed the concept of an international court will be taken into account when considering how to make these international agreements on climate change binding. The court is also backed by a number of MPs, climate change experts and public figures including the actress Judi Dench.
 
Mr Hockman said an international court will be needed to enforce and regulate any agreement.

 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/3530607/Lawyers-call-- for-international-court-for-the-environment.html
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Re: Time to fight back against Eco-terrorism [gagrice] by kernick
Nov 30, 2008 (8:30 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 30, 2008 8:16 am)

The first role of the new body would be to enforce international agreements on cutting greenhouse gas emissions set to be agreed next year.

 
So I guess Black Friday would have to go. We can't allow people to do all that unnecessary driving, just to buy some toys. And that would hurt the economy of us and other countries, , which would be good for reducing production of GHG, by decreasing factory utilization. Wow what a great plan!
 
And wouldn't the world just be a great place to create another autocratic body that does not have to answer to the people; not being elected. Who are these people that want to be sheep and turn control of their lives over to some bureaucracies?
 
Instead of creating new agencies we should be reducing the ones we have. Instead of new taxes we need to reduce the ones we have. The world was a much better place in the 50's (would have been perfect without the Cold War).
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Re: Time to fight back against Eco-terrorism [gagrice] by alltorque
Nov 30, 2008 (9:25 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 30, 2008 8:16 am)

Lord give me strength. Another bunch of interfering busybody's wanting to control the lives of others. You want to do that - get elected first !! This guy has the added incentive of being a lawyer, so is, of course, primarily attempting to set up yet another useless body that can milk the system for millions of, (choose a currency here), to feather his own nest. Four classes of people I do not want dictating enviromental policy at me : Politicians, Lawyers, Climate Change Experts and Actors/Actresses. The first three 'cos I don't trust any of 'em and the latter because...............how long do you have............? Aaaaarrrgggghhhhh.
 
Dame Judi Dench is a fine actress and a nice person but what relevance does she - or her ilk - have to this topic ? Why not co-opt Champion the Wonder Horse or Trigger, or Shrek or Skippy the Bush Kangaroo or Willie the Orca ?
 
This just took me from being a calm, reasonable, pleasant individual who's just spent a nice afternoon going round our local Food & Drink Fair, (yummy), to a raving Grumpy Old Man. If this brings on my third heart attack I will not be a happy bunny. Now there's a threat,
 
Truly, the U.K. is ruled by dangerous madmen. Please, America, invade us and arrange a regime change.
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Re: Time to fight back against Eco-terrorism [alltorque] by gagrice
Nov 30, 2008 (1:38 pm)
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Replying to: alltorque (Nov 30, 2008 9:25 am)

You Brits are so eloquent. I wish I had said all that. For me Shrek has about the most credibility of the bunch.
 
Cheers...

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