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#4221 of 6727 Re: Does This Sound Right? [ruking1] by steve_ HOST Nov 26, 2008 (11:42 am)
Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 26, 2008 11:40 am) I think Toyota got burned pretty good on their sludge (pardon me, gel) issue and shortened their intervals, at least for the North American markets.   Oldfarmer, I think the Prius may have been a loss leader for a year or so, but not after that. Replies to this message: ruking1 (Nov 26, 2008 11:44 am) steve_ (Nov 26, 2008 11:48 am) ruking1 (Nov 26, 2008 11:53 am) and 2 more...
#4222 of 6727 Re: Does This Sound Right? [steve_] by ruking1 Nov 26, 2008 (11:44 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Nov 26, 2008 11:42 am) Ah the real dirty dirty dirty secret/s eh? Replies to this message: steve_ (Nov 26, 2008 11:48 am) ruking1 (Nov 26, 2008 11:53 am) steve_ (Nov 26, 2008 11:56 am) and 1 more...
#4223 of 6727 Re: Does This Sound Right? [oldfarmer50] by kernick Nov 26, 2008 (11:48 am)
Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Nov 26, 2008 10:57 am) I heard yesterday that all the Hybrids that Toyota has sold have been sold at a LOSS!   Yes I heard that too. Washington Post - Nov. 25th carried the article (sorry I can't post; needan online subscription). But what that gives them is what is known in the accounting world is an "intangible asset". The "intangible assets" in this case would be a "green-label for the entire company"; the fact that they can claim "the highest mpg mass-produced car", and there may be others.   To Toyota these may be worth several billion $'s, more than compensating for any actual lose.   Other companies have these intangible assets - why does Bud keep teams of Clydesdales (at a loss), and all the other companies with their logos - they pay for image.
#4224 of 6727 Re: Does This Sound Right? [ruking1] by steve_ HOST Nov 26, 2008 (11:48 am)
Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 26, 2008 11:44 am) It is an issue - I go 7,500 to 10,000 miles on my Nissan using plain old motor oil, and no oil related hiccups in 129,000 miles. It's lessened my opinion of Toyota a bit.   Ah, here we go:   Toyota Says It’s Now Turning a Profit on the Hybrid Prius. (LA Times). It took 75,000 sales to get to profitability and now they've sold over a million of them and expanded hybrid technology to several other models. Replies to this message: ruking1 (Nov 26, 2008 11:53 am) steve_ (Nov 26, 2008 11:56 am) ruking1 (Nov 26, 2008 12:02 pm)
#4225 of 6727 Re: Global Cooling signs here in NE [steve_] by gagrice Nov 26, 2008 (11:50 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Nov 26, 2008 9:26 am) Sure everyone is for a cleaner planet with perfect year round temperatures. Tell them that they are going to have to cough up more money to accomplish that GW mandate and see how many you have. If the high speed rail bill that got voted in this election was proposed honestly no one in their right mind would vote for it. The way it is now every man, woman and child will have to kick in $3000 to build that worthless rail system. All in a state that is on the verge of bankruptcy.
#4226 of 6727 Re: Does This Sound Right? [steve_] by ruking1 Nov 26, 2008 (11:53 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Nov 26, 2008 11:48 am) While the issue is technically not sound bite able, the fact of the matter is that oil chemistries have gotten literally (hate to use the term) exponentially better !!!!! So to keep say a Prius 3,000 to 5,000 miles OCI's is as consumptive as under the old regime of doing 500 miles to 1,000 miles OCI's. DIRTY! DIRTY! DIRTY???? But at the same time the Toyota engineers really know their products and well !!?? Replies to this message: steve_ (Nov 26, 2008 11:56 am) ruking1 (Nov 26, 2008 12:02 pm)
#4227 of 6727 Re: Does This Sound Right? [ruking1] by steve_ HOST Nov 26, 2008 (11:56 am)
Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 26, 2008 11:53 am) I don't know what a severe service interval would be (don't see may Priuses towing or being used as cabs), but the normal interval is 5,000 miles. Just like my '97 Outback. If anything, the Prius should take the lead with a standard 15,000 or 20,000 mile interval. Replies to this message: ruking1 (Nov 26, 2008 12:02 pm)
#4228 of 6727 Re: Does This Sound Right? [steve_] by ruking1 Nov 26, 2008 (12:02 pm)
Replying to: steve_ (Nov 26, 2008 11:56 am) To state the absolute obvious, it does pose the question: if Prius' operate so clean/ly why does it need so frequent OCI's (with exponentially better oil chemistries) that are the equivalent of the OCI's of the 1950/60/70/80's cars (with exponentially worse oil chemistries) !!!???
#4230 of 6727 Re: Ford Motor Company [adrieldenzel] by oldfarmer50 Nov 28, 2008 (5:04 am)
"...Diesel that has ultra low-sulfur diesel fuel..."   Havn't all diesels made in the US since 2007 had to run on ultra low-sulfur? So that's nothing to brag about.   It is nice to see Ford bringing new diesels to the market though. How about something smaller than a 6.4L? Replies to this message: gagrice (Nov 28, 2008 5:20 am) kernick (Nov 28, 2008 5:31 am) gagrice (Nov 28, 2008 5:39 am)

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