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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 26, 2008 9:26 am) 
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I heard yesterday that all the Hybrids that Toyota has sold have been sold at a LOSS! How can that be? Why would Toyota sell a car for less than it costs to produce? More importantly, why are other car companies producing hybrids at all? I guess it does make sense in a Global Warming Cult sort of way. Put yourself out of business so there are no more cars and then the planet will be happy. Just don't fall down and break your leg or it'll be a long hop to the hospital.
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Nov 26, 2008 10:57 am)  3,000/5,000 miles. I wondered how much MORE it would cost (R& D total, per unit cost, etc.,) for them to respecify and obviously redesign the hybrid engine to go a min of 10,000 miles between OCI's; like say, the Honda Civic. This of course is 2x to 3.33 x better for the Civic (conventional oil by the way) !! I personally run OCI's of 20,000 miles on Mobil One 0w20 to 5w20, and have so for 76,000 miles Oil and the next 20,000 miles oil, and oil filter change is due 80,000 miles. It is totally sludge FREE !!!! The thing runs like a top. I run the VW Jetta TDI 20,000 to 25,000 miles OCI's, again on a Mobil One product (Delvac One/Mobil One Truck and Suv 5w40)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 26, 2008 11:40 am) Oldfarmer, I think the Prius may have been a loss leader for a year or so, but not after that.
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 26, 2008 11:42 am) 
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Nov 26, 2008 10:57 am) Yes I heard that too. Washington Post - Nov. 25th carried the article (sorry I can't post; needan online subscription). But what that gives them is what is known in the accounting world is an "intangible asset". The "intangible assets" in this case would be a "green-label for the entire company"; the fact that they can claim "the highest mpg mass-produced car", and there may be others. To Toyota these may be worth several billion $'s, more than compensating for any actual lose. Other companies have these intangible assets - why does Bud keep teams of Clydesdales (at a loss), and all the other companies with their logos - they pay for image. |
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 26, 2008 11:44 am) Ah, here we go: Toyota Says It’s Now Turning a Profit on the Hybrid Prius. (LA Times). It took 75,000 sales to get to profitability and now they've sold over a million of them and expanded hybrid technology to several other models.
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 26, 2008 9:26 am) |
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 26, 2008 11:48 am) 3,000 to 5,000 miles OCI's is as consumptive as under the old regime of doing 500 miles to 1,000 miles OCI's. DIRTY! DIRTY! DIRTY???? But at the same time the Toyota engineers really know their products and well !!??
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 26, 2008 11:53 am)
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