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Re: What about the MARS data? [steve_] by ruking1
Nov 24, 2008 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 24, 2008 8:55 am)

This is really a general comment to the subject, so it is NOT a ping on Steve the host, but what on earth or what is the rule that says the earth should keep its glaciers packed, to adding to the pack!!!!! ??? ALL the evidence on or about the earth indicates the ONLY constant is CHANGE!!! This is true with or without MAN!!!!! Some change is literally in the blink of the proverbial human eye.
 
Like for example, since we are in the left coast (North American Continent) we are known for and are worried about earthquakes, the 1906 being the last "BIG ONE" of noteriety. Well, it is absolutely light weight worry wart status compared to a longer ago earthquake ZONE in the ST LOUIS, MO area specifically referred to as the MADRID fault line. (History Channel program I believe) It last shot off in 1811 (95 years before the famous SF Quake and the aftershocks lasted for literally 30 days !!!!!!!!! It affected folks for easily a 400 miles radius Yet who the HELL has heard of this INXS of 8.0 earthquake, let alone remember it.... compared to the 1906 SF Earthquake!!??
 
The other one that could literally wreck WORLD WIDE havoc is YELLOWSTONE National Park, which is a HUGE dormant volcano.It has for literally untolled centuries emitted "toxic (to us) gas 24/7. It is funny how a lot of environmentalists refer to this area as "PRISTINE WILDERNESS" threatened by MANS encroachment. My .02 cents is they are afraid of precisely the WRONG thing !!!???
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Re: What about the MARS data? [kernick] by steve_ HOST
Nov 24, 2008 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: kernick (Nov 24, 2008 9:05 am)

And how is that proof that it is (significantly) caused by man's industrialization?
 
Well, I didn't say it was proof, but it has got my attention. Like Ingason says in your link, it's like a giant puzzle.
 
And what's really puzzling is how the science has become a public opinion industry as much as simply having scientists continue to try to figure out if emissions are a problem and if reducing them will have any effect on the climate.
 
Ruking, I lived in Memphis for a while decades ago, and the city fathers were worried then about the woefully inadequate building codes and what was going to happen when the Mississippi flowed north again thanks to the New Madrid fault. At least now I'm upwind from Yellowstone.
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Re: What about the MARS data? [steve_] by ruking1
Nov 24, 2008 (9:35 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 24, 2008 9:24 am)

So when the Mississippi River did a 180 degree and flowed north did mudder natural send out impact studies???
 
Well with the 1811, 30 day aftershocks are the buildings all on rollers and shock absorbers? Or... are there a lot of unreinforced BRICK buildings still hoping to dodge the inevitable BIG ONE
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Re: What about the MARS data? [steve_] by kernick
Nov 24, 2008 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 24, 2008 9:24 am)

At least now I'm upwind from Yellowstone.
 
But we can affect the volcano under there. Mankind is so powerful that surely we can pour enough water underground to put the volcano out. After all that is only a small part of the Earth, and we are so powerful and control our environment! The bad news for GW is that the steam that would be produced is much worse than CO2 as a GHG.
 
Sure we can have an effect on anything including continenetal drift, the Earth's rotation, and we can even change the amount of H2O by filling and sending rockets into space. There's a significant difference between having "an effect" and having "a significant effect".
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So... by iluvmysephia1
Nov 24, 2008 (11:18 am)
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what do you guys think about the news stated a few posts back on here regarding the apparent fact that the sun is heating us up more than the past? That really has a caveat on it, because, by the past how far back do we go for this "upward trend in the sun warming our Milky Way up?" The last 5 years? The last 10 years?
 
When will it end? Armageddon?
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Re: So... [iluvmysephia1] by ruking1
Nov 24, 2008 (11:24 am)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 24, 2008 11:18 am)

Well this is really not new news at all. It has been know for quite while. (for me since grammar school 52 years ago) It is news in that it has been ignored in the computations and probably only now being once again acknowledged?
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Re: What about the MARS data? [Mr_Shiftright] by joel0622
Nov 24, 2008 (11:32 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 23, 2008 4:43 pm)

Don't you see the Big Three's lag in hybrid development and their consequent misplacement of product mix in general as a sign that they are out of step with developing technologies?
 
Now your blaming Gobal Warming on the Domestics. Holly Crap, whats next the Kennedy Assassination.
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Re: What about the MARS data? [joel0622] by ruking1
Nov 24, 2008 (11:34 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Nov 24, 2008 11:32 am)

See even then they had the ONE magic bullet !!!!
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So, ruking1... by iluvmysephia1
Nov 24, 2008 (11:36 am)
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Well this is really not new news at all. It has been know for quite while. (for me since grammar school 52 years ago) It is news in that it has been ignored in the computations and probably only now being once again acknowledged?
 
What else does the scientific community know about this, I spose I could Google it, but what does this mean for a padre living in SE Arizona working in the medical community?
 
OK, let's think practically for starters. Remember to wear your sun-block and use a 45 blocking formula instead of only 25-35, for better blockage. Just to sort of get this thing "moving" a little bit.
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Re: What about the MARS data? [joel0622] by joshuag
Nov 24, 2008 (1:33 pm)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Nov 24, 2008 11:32 am)

What are you talking about? GM has more Hybrid cars out than all the Foreign brands combined. Ford has the popular Escape hybrid, the new Fusion Hybrid coming out, it also has the new Ford Fiesta about to hit that gets over 40 mpg. Your just blind.

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