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Are automobiles a major cause of global warming?

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Re: What about the MARS data? [Mr_Shiftright] by ruking1
Nov 23, 2008 (4:32 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 23, 2008 4:24 pm)

..."and perhaps a 4 -person volunteer low-wattage station in Berkeley,"...
 
You dare dis KALX 90.7 FM in the dungeons of Dwinnelle Hall !!!??? Shame on you ! GO BEARS !!!
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Re: What about the MARS data? [bpeebles] by houdini1
Nov 23, 2008 (4:38 pm)
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Replying to: bpeebles (Nov 23, 2008 4:19 pm)

Earth tilting slightly....hmmmm. You may have hit on the next big Crusade:
 
"Americans are so overweight they are causing earth to tilt".
 
In the meantime Al Gore has cornered the market on helium and mandates that we must breathe pure helium for 2 hours each day to offset excess weight...makes about as much sense as "fixing" global warming.
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Re: What about the MARS data? [Mr_Shiftright] by gagrice
Nov 23, 2008 (4:39 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 23, 2008 4:24 pm)

Many of the scientists that contributed data for the report have refuted the way the politicians compiled it. Some may be facts and some is fiction. All is done by an entity I have very little faith in. The UN is the body that ripped to World off for billions with the Iraq food for oil program. And you expect me to believe anything they say?
 
Most scientists now say the last 10 years is a cooling trend. That being the case how could man have anything significant to do with i?. We have not produced less CO2 over the last 10 years.
 
I am for burning less fossil fuel. Just getting past those eco wackos in the USA, that have blocked most of the vehicles built in the World that use less fuel.
 
As I am sure you are aware the Global Warming Cult have changed to Climate Change so they can push their snake oil in all kinds of weather. I'm shooting the first carbon credit sales person that comes to my door.
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Re: What about the MARS data? [ruking1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 23, 2008 (4:43 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 23, 2008 4:32 pm)

No, no, not KALX---I was thinking of KPFA. I wish I could stream it here so people could hear what REAL liberal media sounds like (aside from very dim due to the weak batteries).
 
Ah, so all the world's scientists are now on the suspect list? Hmmm, don't like the sound of that!
 
Politicians didn't frame this 21 page report. It's as it was written by the scientists.
 
Read it, it's interesting. Takes 15-20 minutes at best.
 
ANYWAY -- we gotta veer back to the topic of automakers & global warming or we'll get yelled at!
 
Don't you see the Big Three's lag in hybrid development and their consequent misplacement of product mix in general as a sign that they are out of step with developing technologies?
 
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Re: What about the MARS data? [Mr_Shiftright] by ruking1
Nov 23, 2008 (4:45 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 23, 2008 4:43 pm)

GEEZ now there is a WEAK station that just won't die. I think two guys hijacked the station 35 years ago, but no one remembered where they were located so they could give in to their irrational demands. Must be global warming!
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Re: What about the MARS data? [ruking1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 23, 2008 (4:47 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 23, 2008 4:45 pm)

I love KPFA, they are so off the wall sometime. Life needs one of everything to stay interesting. I bet they don't like cars, either.
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Re: What about the MARS data? [Mr_Shiftright] by steve_ HOST
Nov 23, 2008 (4:53 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 23, 2008 4:47 pm)

Well, you had me going with KALX (just missed Hendrix singing Blue Suede Shoes).
 
But KPFA streams on the net too. Sounds like it's bluegrass night there.
 
[edit - Ruking, usually you can find the stream just by going to the web site; otherwise try Shoutcast.com or similar for 1,000s of stations worldwide.]
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Re: What about the MARS data? [steve_] by ruking1
Nov 23, 2008 (4:54 pm)
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Thanks for the link. I can only get that OTHER school's ( Stanford's) 90.00 FM in these parts. I was pulling your chain on KPFA. Its pretty clear down here 94.10 FM.
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Re: What about the MARS data? [Mr_Shiftright] by kernick
Nov 23, 2008 (6:38 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 23, 2008 4:24 pm)

Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which is made up of scientists from 113 countries, finds a strong possibility that man is heavily impacting current global warming.
 
If your a student of history you will realize that the timeline is littered with the best scientists of their era being wrong. And I can certainly with a straight face standup and say "man is heavily impacting" as heavily is very subjective, and could be anywhere from 0.001% to 99.999%, without being a lie.
 
I'd say burden of proof is now on the skeptics.
 
No. In science proof is required of those proposing something. The FDA does not do testing; it reviews the testing presented. Similarly when cold-fusion was announced, the burden of proof is on the proposers.
 
I just saw a National Geographic show concerning the Vikings and Europe in the 1200-1600 time-frame and sudden climate change has been documented in pre-industrial ages.
 
Even today the amount of emissions from man is small compared to nature. The amount of energy we use is very small compared to the Sun's and other radiations that reaches the air and surface of the Earth. I think you need to stop thinking man is the omnipotent factor in nature; do a little research and look at the numbers on nature's emissions and energy, relative to humans.

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