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Re: What about the MARS data? [bpeebles] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 23, 2008 (4:24 pm)
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Replying to: bpeebles (Nov 23, 2008 3:59 pm)

Oh, now you've said the "L" word and backslid on your science credentials. I think there are a few battery-powered liberal media radio stations somewhere is some cactus-strewn landscape somewhere, and perhaps a 4 -person volunteer low-wattage station in Berkeley, and a few aging hippies leafleting in Eugene Oregon, but other than that, there's no substantive liberal media. Five or six (I forget) huge corporations own ALL the major American media, and I doubt any of the CEOs are revolutionaries--LOL!
 
As for Man causing global warming, that's true, that is a controversial question, but the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which is made up of scientists from 113 countries, finds a strong possibility that man is heavily impacting current global warming.
 
I'd say burden of proof is now on the skeptics:
 
Here's the 21 page report if you care to read it. I find it very interesting. Tell us what you think. No punches pulled on this one. They are pretty certain something's up and we're part of that something.
 
 I'd like to send a copy to all the automakers in fact as it might stimulate imaginative engineering, like better EVs, Hybrids and Hydrogen cars. This is the strongest worded report IPCC has put out.
 
REPORT
 
Nope, both polar ice caps are losing ground, so says NASA:
 
Nasa Joins Gore Conspiracy
 
 
 
Well can we agree on this statement: "Man's industrial activities probably contributes to natural global warming?"
 
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Re: What about the MARS data? [Mr_Shiftright] by ruking1
Nov 23, 2008 (4:29 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 23, 2008 4:24 pm)

If it were not for C02, the TREES (among a literal host of other photosynthesis oxygen producers) would be DEAD.
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Re: What about the MARS data? [Mr_Shiftright] by bpeebles
Nov 23, 2008 (4:30 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 23, 2008 4:24 pm)

LOL - even the name "Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change" assumes that the climate is changing and somthing needs to be done about it.
 
Even a 4th grader should see through that ploy. Why even bother reading a report from such a "panel", I already know what their conclusions will be. Remember, I am old and I have seen this before. They can make it look official, but in the end, the results are predictable.
 
If there were such a thing as "Intergovernmental Panel on Barking Dogs".... would that mean somthing needs to be done about canines making noise?
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Re: What about the MARS data? [Mr_Shiftright] by ruking1
Nov 23, 2008 (4:32 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 23, 2008 4:24 pm)

..."and perhaps a 4 -person volunteer low-wattage station in Berkeley,"...
 
You dare dis KALX 90.7 FM in the dungeons of Dwinnelle Hall !!!??? Shame on you ! GO BEARS !!!
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Re: What about the MARS data? [bpeebles] by houdini1
Nov 23, 2008 (4:38 pm)
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Replying to: bpeebles (Nov 23, 2008 4:19 pm)

Earth tilting slightly....hmmmm. You may have hit on the next big Crusade:
 
"Americans are so overweight they are causing earth to tilt".
 
In the meantime Al Gore has cornered the market on helium and mandates that we must breathe pure helium for 2 hours each day to offset excess weight...makes about as much sense as "fixing" global warming.
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Re: What about the MARS data? [Mr_Shiftright] by gagrice
Nov 23, 2008 (4:39 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 23, 2008 4:24 pm)

Many of the scientists that contributed data for the report have refuted the way the politicians compiled it. Some may be facts and some is fiction. All is done by an entity I have very little faith in. The UN is the body that ripped to World off for billions with the Iraq food for oil program. And you expect me to believe anything they say?
 
Most scientists now say the last 10 years is a cooling trend. That being the case how could man have anything significant to do with i?. We have not produced less CO2 over the last 10 years.
 
I am for burning less fossil fuel. Just getting past those eco wackos in the USA, that have blocked most of the vehicles built in the World that use less fuel.
 
As I am sure you are aware the Global Warming Cult have changed to Climate Change so they can push their snake oil in all kinds of weather. I'm shooting the first carbon credit sales person that comes to my door.
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Re: What about the MARS data? [ruking1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 23, 2008 (4:43 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 23, 2008 4:32 pm)

No, no, not KALX---I was thinking of KPFA. I wish I could stream it here so people could hear what REAL liberal media sounds like (aside from very dim due to the weak batteries).
 
Ah, so all the world's scientists are now on the suspect list? Hmmm, don't like the sound of that!
 
Politicians didn't frame this 21 page report. It's as it was written by the scientists.
 
Read it, it's interesting. Takes 15-20 minutes at best.
 
ANYWAY -- we gotta veer back to the topic of automakers & global warming or we'll get yelled at!
 
Don't you see the Big Three's lag in hybrid development and their consequent misplacement of product mix in general as a sign that they are out of step with developing technologies?
 
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Re: What about the MARS data? [Mr_Shiftright] by ruking1
Nov 23, 2008 (4:45 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 23, 2008 4:43 pm)

GEEZ now there is a WEAK station that just won't die. I think two guys hijacked the station 35 years ago, but no one remembered where they were located so they could give in to their irrational demands. Must be global warming!
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Re: What about the MARS data? [ruking1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 23, 2008 (4:47 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 23, 2008 4:45 pm)

I love KPFA, they are so off the wall sometime. Life needs one of everything to stay interesting. I bet they don't like cars, either.

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