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According to John Coleman that founded The Weather Channel it was hijacked by the radical environmentalist. Did NBC see the light and clean house? NBC Universal made the first of potentially several rounds of staffing cuts at The Weather Channel (TWC) on Wednesday, axing the entire staff of the “Forecast Earth” environmental program during the middle of NBC’s “Green Week”, as well as several on-camera meteorologists. The layoffs totaled about 10 percent of the workforce, and are the first major changes made since NBC completed its purchase of the venerable weather network in September. Among the meteorologists who was let go was Dave Schwartz, a Weather Channel veteran and a viewer staple due to his lively on camera presentations. USA Today reported that meteorologists Cheryl Lemke and Eboni Deon were also let go. The timing of the Forecast Earth cancellation was ironic, since it came in the middle of NBC’s “Green is Universal” week, during which the network has been touting its environmental coverage across all of its platforms. Forecast Earth normally aired on weekends, but its presumed last episode was shown on a weekday due to the environmentally-oriented week. Forecast Earth was hosted by former CNN anchor Natalie Allen, with contributions from climate expert Heidi Cullen. It was the sole program on TWC that focused on global climate change, which raises the question of whether the station will still report on the subject. Cullen’s future role at the network is not known. |
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 22, 2008 9:36 am) If you're dissing the Irish the answer is 7. One to hold the light bulb and six to drink until the room spins. (Relax PC Police, I'm as Irish as they come so it's OK for me to tell Irish jokes). |
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Nov 22, 2008 6:22 am) Global warming is as real as real can be. The science of it is getting really dialed in, going from computer modelling (problematic, as you know) to more empirical data gathering. It's a bit harder to pin down HOW MUCH of it is due to automobiles, I would imagine, but the science is getting much better at ascertaining how much of it is man-made. I think any country that does not immediately start addressing this issue is doomed to extinction economically, not weather-wise. (that would take decades and decades) As this pertains to cars, it's obvious to me that the future lies in vehicles that will conform to global world standards that will have to be implemented. If American automakers decline to do this, then the Japanese and Europeans will, and we won't have an auto industry of any kind in 10-20 years IMO. RECENT DEVELOPMENTS |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 23, 2008 11:40 am) What "standards" would that be? Hybrid sales are increasing, got the "Volt" type cars coming along. |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 23, 2008 11:40 am) Not to pick on the Chinese, but they aspire to more vehicles and they will soon match the 254.1 M US car volume and of course European Countries have pretty close to the same population. So if you add US 254.1 M and Euro 260 M and TBD 300 M Chinese volume (not to exclude other countries vehicle populations, you are talking a min of 814 M vehicles !!!! I poached what I posted on another thread ..."Indeed the Big Three's recent "tribulations" have finally let the facts come to light that DEMOCRATS have ALL ALONG ( least 53 years!?) been major cheerleaders for quashing higher fuel standards, aka Michigan's House of Representatives and acknowledged DEAN (Democrat) The Honorable John D. Dingell. "... link title Indeed we don't even believe it link title Keep in mind the current standards are 27 mpg with a defacto 22 mpg American fleet wide. This is not news to anyone, but the House, Senate, Executive Branch, State Governors, etc, etc, are THE democratic MAJORITY. So there is a min of 4 more years and probably another 4 year option for a total of 8 years of more of the same.
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 23, 2008 12:24 pm) FUEL STANDARDS -- global warming is not conservative, or liberal or republican or democrat. Global warming is a national issue. You cannot pin global warming on a political party (not that you were, but just saying). Our sloppiness in environmental protection is like our sloppiness in budget and trade and SS and Medicaire deficits. We just didn't address the issues, we let them slide. Decade after decade, president after president. They are all to blame. Chickens, here's your roost! WORLD STANDARDS -- that's a good question. I threw that term out without really considering what that meant, but I suspect this next generation of automotive technology will be evolutionary rather than revolutionary for the next decade, and then perhaps revolutionary after that, as in hydrogen powered, etc. It could be for instance, that some countries may not even allow imports of autos that do not conform to these world standards. Perhaps you can send a Volt to Europe but not a Corvette, or a MINI diesel hybrid to America but not a Range Rover. Obviously "standards" will include much more than cars--it will have to be industries-wide.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 23, 2008 12:42 pm) Now this is common knowledge but Warren Buffet has been an investor in rail roads. DAH?? How is that related? Well funny, Mile or so long COAL trains are a very cost effective way to get coal to the ports.... for EXPORT. Now if the new Secretary of State WILL be the "other half "of that famous tag team... well... draw your own conclusions.... Not to mention the Clinton Administration veterans the new President elect is seemingly tapping.
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 23, 2008 12:53 pm) We can do 'business as usual' but we'll pay....no, our grandchildren will pay...a punishing price for it. There's no "doom and gloom" about it. Facts are facts, they don't care what we believe or not believe to be true. Denying something doesn't make it false, and asserting it doesn't make it true, right?. I mean, there's hardly a man left alive who would say for instance: "I think we should let the Big Three make only large SUVs and pickups" OR "Now that gas prices are down, let's make all cars V8s" of course not. Slowly but surely everybody gets on board with "basic real world". The trick is not to panic and do something equally stupid in the OTHER direction. |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 23, 2008 1:13 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 23, 2008 1:25 pm) I tell you the next 20 years are going to be very interesting in terms of the various "lifestyles" in different countries and how those will develop. Americans are going to have to learn to live differently----not worse, but different.
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