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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 15, 2008 10:00 am) Saw this the other day: Tackle air quality and you tackle health care too. "California alone, which has the nation's worst air quality, according to the American Lung Association, loses $28 billion each year due to smog-related deaths, work and school absences, emergency room visits, and asthma attacks and other respiratory illnesses, says a new study by Cal State Fullerton. We need a healthier economy, and that can be defined in more ways than one. Better air quality standards and a bailout package for the auto industry with caveats on fuel efficiency can reshape America. Wouldn't that be a breath of fresh air."
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 15, 2008 10:21 am)  The reason CA has these so called "uncontrollable /untame able" disasters like the current burning of Monteceito, CA and habitually Malibu, CA , are unnatural CA policies of stopping natural wild fires: ergo the various fuels pile/s up to "disaster levels." LIterally anything from a very natural lightning strike to a BBQ ember can set off a potential disaster. Of course, you are enjoined from removing this stuff. Getting permits to remove this stuff and or control burns are literally considered environmentally unsound and literally impossble... So the consequences are..... almost predictable. The only question is the WHEN probability. .
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 15, 2008 10:21 am) I would be interested to see how that compares to the deaths and expenses relating to obesity and type 2 diabetes caused by processed foods. I would think that is a MUCH more serious problem than air quality. 600,000 Americans dying prematurely each year from obesity, lack of exercise, and smoking. We know smoking has gone way down so obesity is the major health issue we face. So many other issues get pushed to the forefront to protect the mega ag industry. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 15, 2008 10:36 am) There does seem to be good evidence tying in health issues with vehicle exhaust, and (mostly) affordable remedies appear to be available. And it also seems that lots of those remedies happen to tie in nicely with current thinking on global warming "solutions." I think I just used up my daily allotment of weasel words in just one post. 
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 15, 2008 10:36 am) |
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 15, 2008 10:43 am) Just as all the carbon credit crappola will be paid by you and I the working stiffs. Higher utility bills etc.
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 15, 2008 10:50 am) Some sites say there are ~250 million cars on the road in the US (and every one seems to be on the road at 5 pm). That does make them an easy target. |
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it's dust and pollen and smoking. As a Respiratory Therapist it pains me to see fellow workmates head out and smoke. Talk about not really getting the message in to the noggin, and then putting the wrong impression back out to others.  Pollution doesn't help but I have not heard that one before, gagrice, that most cars today put out cleaner air than they take in. 
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 15, 2008 10:50 am) For example years ago, I did the research in preparation of moving to Incline Village, NV. The huge red flag was construction was mandated to be done as close to trees (dying or otherwise) Indeed some folks have even made living (probably now dead) trees PART of the house. This of course goes against those very same agencies whose regulations require "adequate" fire breaks and common sense. Indeed if you cut down a tree on your own property even despite emergency circumstances: aka sans proper permits, you could be sent to jail on felony charges. Needless to say this (for me) was a deal breaker. Fast forward to the 2008/2009 season, the whole north Tahoe area had since had diseases affecting living trees. This literally has decimated the tree population en mass and most dead trees are.... still standing. |
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 15, 2008 10:59 am)  Indeed if one is susceptible, you need to create and stay in an "artificial" environment.
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