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As many of you know there are thousands of reputable scientists that do not subscribe to the church of global warming. The lastest NASA data over the last few years shows a marked decrease in the earths temperature. Last year was the largest decrease for one year since data has been recorded. We had the earliest snowfall in my cities history in October in 2008. You probably also know that the Earth has a ten thousand year ice age cycle that may be upon us. In the hundred or so of science based articles that I have read, I am not yet on board the Global Warming Train. History has demonstrated time and again that people that want to control your property and your life will use fear as a tool. In the last century there has been six distinct panics that the Earth was cooling or heating. Some of you might remember that in the 70s the experts were telling us that we were entering a new ice age. Am I missing something here? The ingenity of the human mind is boundless and I am sure will find a way to clean the air and optimize it for life on this beautiful planet. Some very wise people say that what we worry about usually never happens. It is what we are not thinking about that usually gets us. |
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E. Floyd Kvamme is partner emeritus at Kleiner Perkins Caufield and Byers of Menlo Park. He wrote this article for the Mercury News. "Start using real numbers when we talk about energy" Demos have blocked the way to so called "CAFE" standards: ..."after 15 years of stonewalling."... UPSHOT: ..."Let's cut out the misinformation, inform the public of the real numbers and achieve genuine energy leadership." link title AS you will never guess who is a current partner at "Kleiner Perkins Caufield and Byers of Menlo Park" link title The bad/good news? Starting in 2012 (if the new 35 mpg standards really start being implemented ( defacto being swagged at -19%= 28.4 mpg -same as 27 mpg standard with defacto  22 mpg) with 10 M in MY sales,: then to swap out the current fleet (251.4 M/ 10 M) will take 25 years as a minimum. In CA to show progress, the policy has been to get rid of manufacturing jobs i.e., auto manufacturing, where they usually end up overseas. Perhaps Detroit is starting to embrace the CA demo agenda?  As it has often been said: so goes CALI so goes the rest of the country?
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AL GORE by Richard Cohen link title
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 12, 2008 7:48 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 12, 2008 9:20 am)  I think if the job is offered AND Gore actually takes the job, it will be like St Patties day in Chicago, we are ALL IRISH (aka genuflect at the mere words: global warming) Carbon credits issued for ceremonial stake burning of non believers. Much has been made about how much Obama OWES the various factions that got him elected. If one looks at the popular vote, his (election) presidency is FAR from a mandate from the "peoples" I would tend to see his "SLIGHT" majority as more of an anti BUSH, Palin loathing, etc., rather than whole hearted endorsement of his seemingly flip flop here to fore secret policies. The major advantage is almost EVERYONE is now in his party. So in effect, it is HIS to command. This was hardly so when a Repub was in the executive office against a house and senate that were primarily democratic. If you look at the electoral college vote, the old politics(aka back room cigar smoke deals) then YES. It will be interesting to see how he puts together his "machine"
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 12, 2008 9:34 am) He did this at the beginning of his 8 year presidency, So this has been going on for at least 16 years!!! Who are the major customers? aka the Kyoto signers?  Warren Buffet ( investor that he is) long ago bought BIG stakes in TRAINS (this is all common knowledge). How are trains and coal related? Far and away the BIGGEST train customers are the COAL industries, oil, gas and followed by the commodities such as grains, etc.... If it were left to the "heavier" duty manufacturing (washing machines, etc,) trains would have folded LONG ago. Train companies have long been on the public dole. |
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Joseph Biden...... link title And the USA protects European oil logistics, when even they do no like us?
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 12, 2008 1:32 pm) |
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 12, 2008 1:33 pm) 
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