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Are automobiles a major cause of global warming?

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Re: Al Gore has nerve [larsb] by ruking1
Nov 10, 2008 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Nov 10, 2008 7:58 am)

I am not sure how you go from the concept of individuals can and do control their own ideas of waste to: why that is stupid, ergo that is why we have laws against murder. Don't explain, just get back on topic.
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Re: Al Gore has nerve [ruking1] by larsb
Nov 10, 2008 (8:33 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 10, 2008 8:13 am)

I never left the topic.
 
Gary basically asked, "Why does the guvmint need to set rules for pollution levels?" and I answered him.
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Re: Al Gore has nerve [larsb] by gagrice
Nov 10, 2008 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Nov 10, 2008 8:33 am)

Gary basically asked, "Why does the guvmint need to set rules for pollution levels?
 
We were considering waste. You threw in murder to deflect off of waste being an individual consideration vs a government determination. I do not consider trimming the fat off of a beef roast and disposing of it as waste. Other people may. I don't want the government telling me my car is more wasteful than needs be. We have too much government. When they start adding tax for CO2 where does it stop? If you exhale more than I do because you are riding your bike and I am blogging, should you be charged for more carbon emissions? How about the GHG that a pet emits. Will that be taxed by an overly zealous State like CA. I would not discount it happening. We now have to give our chickens, pigs and cattle more exercise. Will that increase their GHG emissions?
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Re: Al Gore has nerve [gagrice] by larsb
Nov 10, 2008 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 10, 2008 9:56 am)

Gary says, "I do not consider trimming the fat off of a beef roast and disposing of it as waste."
 
You could put it into a composter and add it to your garden as food.
 
Gary says, "I don't want the government telling me my car is more wasteful than needs be."
 
Unfortunately, it is a requirement to keep all the cars off the road which might really REALLY pollute badly. Too many people, given their own chance to drive whatever kind of polluter they wanted to, would choose unwisely. You know that to be true as well as I do.
 
You know I'm not for "overzealous" in any facet. I'm advocating using reasonable methods to curb your own waste.
 
Extremism in ANY regard is almost invariably a bad idea.
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Re: Al Gore has nerve [larsb] by steve_ HOST
Nov 10, 2008 (10:34 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Nov 10, 2008 10:21 am)

You can't really compost meat scraps unless you cook them first, and even then you risk attracting rats and other critters.
 
"Democrats are fighting over control of the House Energy and Commerce Committee and the outcome could affect President-elect Obama's efforts to limit the heat-trapping gases blamed for global warming."
 
And what's the underlying fight? Waxman of California vs. Dingell of Michigan for the energy chair (guess who doesn't want stricter mpg standards?).
 
Party tussle ensnares Obama's global warming goals (AP)
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Re: Al Gore has nerve [steve_] by larsb
Nov 10, 2008 (10:36 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 10, 2008 10:34 am)

steve says, "You can't really compost meat scraps unless you cook them first, and even then you risk attracting rats and other critters."
 
Oh, Ye of little faith !!! You know I don't usually say things unless I have some factual basis for it !!
 
Kitchen Composter
 
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Re: Al Gore has nerve [larsb] by steve_ HOST
Nov 10, 2008 (10:39 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Nov 10, 2008 10:36 am)

I've been composting for umpteen years, although I did the worm thing when I was in Anchorage. My piles here are outside, and meat scraps have more issues than I want to deal with, especially since I rarely turn mine and don't want to dig into the middle of them to stick a slab of fat in. My piles start out around 5x5x4' high and I have three cooking right now.
 
I'm sure not going to pay to plug a composter into an electric outlet (your link's gizmo "cooks" the meat scraps you know)..
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topic reminder by steve_ HOST
Nov 10, 2008 (11:10 am)
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We're discussing GW and auto's, not each other.

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