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Are automobiles a major cause of global warming?

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Re: Famous Scientist shunned for his views on GW [gagrice] by steve_ HOST
Nov 05, 2008 (5:48 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 05, 2008 5:31 pm)

Interesting guy; Wiki quotes him as saying he was banned from the BBC for running against (and losing to) John Major.
 
In '89 he said "The profligate demands of humankind are causing far reaching changes to the atmosphere of planet Earth."
 
Must be why he ran against Major - got the flip-flop down pat.
 
Gotta love a guy who goes to jail fighting dam construction though.
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Re: Creators of carbon credit scheme cashing in on scam [steve_] by duke23
Nov 05, 2008 (7:23 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 05, 2008 8:54 am)

Steve wrote :
"I'd make some comment about Texas being about as southern as South Florida but that would just get me started on real BBQ vs grilled beef ribs and y'all don't want to go there. Where I grew up, Arkansas was a border state. Texas is a wonderful state and all, but we considered it Western back in the Deep South. "
Cracking me up once again sir, but at least there was no mention of vinegar on the meat, a violation of all that can be held sacred. Low & slow our mantra. California knows BBQ as does Somalia knows sushi. Yea, Snuffy and damn them revenooers.
Ok , Lars, so is that chicken fried big enough for you and yer dawg ? Environmentally friendly no but pass the cream gravy willya. God Bless Lipitor. Granted BBQ pits and smokers not beneficial toward global warming but cold dead fingers and all. Anyway it's global cooling. Ice age and Jurassic park.Get with the program.
 
K, you make me chortle mucho, Thanks.
Favorite WK, Pogo quote : "we have met the enemy and he is us " That and Friday the 13th come on Tuesday this month.
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Re: Creators of carbon credit scheme cashing in on scam [duke23] by steve_ HOST
Nov 05, 2008 (8:12 pm)
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Replying to: duke23 (Nov 05, 2008 7:23 pm)

I like vinegar pretty good; sometimes a sweet vinegar slaw on the sandwich hits the spot. Wet sauce, dry rubs, it's (often) all good. The best part is researching all the various claims.
 
When I cooked Clarence, I mostly used the vinegar technique and no one complained. (My big cleaver still has the dings on it from hammering on it as I butterflied the pig).
 
I'm pretty sure Maryland isn't going to become renown for BBQ with air quality regulations like this.
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Be careful what you wish for.... by ruking1
Nov 06, 2008 (1:42 pm)
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The "hated" auto industry is caving with a lot of help from the environmentalists of same party that will (ultimately) BAIL them out !!!! The big "THREE" has (long since) shrunk to the BIG 2.5, and is on the verge of shrinking further to the small 2.0 version. The (TV pundits CNBC) projection on the job loss if it should shrink to the big 2 is a loss of 2,500,000 jobs and INXS of - minus 125 B dollars. The MY sales projection is 10 M to 10.5M vs 16 to 16.5 M in years past.
 
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Re: larsb... [gagrice] by houdini1
Nov 06, 2008 (7:20 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 05, 2008 1:31 pm)

We live near a golf course and I play a lot of golf. So much that my wife says I should get a job there so I could have a company cart.
 
They are all plug in electrics so maybe I could also get the tax credit....Got to work all the angles these days.
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Re: larsb... [houdini1] by gagrice
Nov 06, 2008 (8:21 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Nov 06, 2008 7:20 pm)

I could justify doing my part with a $7500 tax credit on one of these little EVs
 

 
Got to talk to my tax man before the end of the year.
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Re: larsb... [gagrice] by ruking1
Nov 07, 2008 (6:29 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 05, 2008 1:14 pm)

Arnold S------------- (the token republican, but really reluctant demo) was given the job (by the demo dominated legislature) to go begging for 45 BILLION DOLLARS !!! Overspending is getting its just reward !? For sure our more narrow topic (hated autos) is exponentially dwarfed.
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Re: larsb... [ruking1] by ruking1
Nov 07, 2008 (11:19 am)
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Does anybody swag, the (demo) votes are there to delay the (35 mpg) 2012 fuel economy standards?
 
(aka let the 27 mpg standards, defacto 22 mpgcontinue/ REMAIN!?)
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Re: Al Gore has nerve [larsb] by duke23
Nov 07, 2008 (6:52 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 23, 2008 9:35 am)

larsb wrote :
"Yes, America IS Grand. Thanks Much For Noticing."
And your point is ? Your thesis is busted since it never had any economic validity,Your points are extreme and explain a viewpoint that tested is irrational. As compassionate person I forgive you, yet you and nippon will not lie low. Car manufactuers are sufferering greatly. Pseudo greenism kudos because you drive a fuel efficient vehicle is out of touch, get with the program. What gives? Said in my most kindly Ronald McDonald happy meal voice. As per Tiny Tim , God Bless us one and all. The green and the red shall suffer equally in their marginal propensity to consume but you two aren't posturing are you ? Inquiring minds and all that.
Suffering dealerships struggle to sell inventory.
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Re: larsb... [ruking1] by ruking1
Nov 08, 2008 (2:03 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 07, 2008 11:19 am)

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The above is old news but another indicator, why they will probably keep the old standards.

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