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Re: larsb... [iluvmysephia1] by kernick
Nov 05, 2008 (12:18 pm)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 05, 2008 11:51 am)

even with the $7,500 Guv-Mint rebate and $2,000 Chev rebate
 
Since the guvmint is going to pumping at least $25B into the Big 3, plus maybe another $10B for a GM-Chrysler merger, any rebate that GM gives is possible because they are using taxpayer money.
 
So that's $9,500 the guvmint is going to give to help some # of thousands of people, out of a driving population of 200 million.
 
Instead of giving $9,500 to people who can afford a $30K-$40K car, maybe they ought to see if there are any hungry people or children in this country, or someone who needs health care and can't afford it!
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Re: larsb... [iluvmysephia1] by larsb
Nov 05, 2008 (12:54 pm)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 05, 2008 11:51 am)

Sorry back at you, amigo, but that has been "superseded" by newer infomation:
 
2011 Volt to carry a MSRP of around $40,000.
 
That $30K figger was early in the game. After they started crunching more numbers, someone went "Uh-Oh" and they upped the estimate.
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Re: larsb... [kernick] by larsb
Nov 05, 2008 (1:00 pm)
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Replying to: kernick (Nov 05, 2008 12:18 pm)

kernick says, "Instead of giving $9,500 to people who can afford a $30K-$40K car, maybe they ought to see if there are any hungry people or children in this country, or someone who needs health care and can't afford it! "
 
I know who SOMEBODY voted for !!!!!
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Re: larsb... [larsb] by gagrice
Nov 05, 2008 (1:08 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Nov 05, 2008 12:54 pm)

But according to unnamed sources cited by Reuters, LG Chem will be the General's pick.
 
It's been estimated the 400-lb battery pack (largely considered the most important part of the Volt) will tack on an additional $10,000 to the car's price.

 
Did I not read that the tax incentive was for domestic built plug-in hybrid? If the battery the one most expensive component is built in Korea. I would think that would make the car less than 85% domestic which I believe is the point needed. Toyota is not happy they were excluded with their. Plug-in Hybrid.
 
Toyota's objection to the bill does not give high hopes to the upcoming plug-in Prius being eligable for the larger credit. Toyota insists the bill should equally target all plug-in electric vehicle buyers, allowing consumers, not the government, to determine market winners.
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Re: larsb... [larsb] by gagrice
Nov 05, 2008 (1:14 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Nov 05, 2008 1:00 pm)

Obama did promise to bring back jobs to the UAW. That got him the votes in Michigan. He also promised to pay the rent and gas bills for others. So they better get the printing presses rolling. Cause the money gonna be flowing.
 
I would imagine CA with all its babbling about GHG emissions would give incentives. I think they are broke though.
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Re: larsb... [gagrice] by larsb
Nov 05, 2008 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 05, 2008 1:08 pm)

Looks like both GM and 'Yota are in, according to this story:
 
So far General Motors and Toyota are the only automakers that have announced plans to produce plug-in hybrid vehicles in the near future.
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Re: larsb... [gagrice] by larsb
Nov 05, 2008 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 05, 2008 1:14 pm)

This also says the Tesla is included:
 
Only one such vehicle—the Tesla Roadster—is on sale today
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Re: larsb... [larsb] by gagrice
Nov 05, 2008 (1:31 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Nov 05, 2008 1:16 pm)

I wonder if it will include EVs also. It sounds like the vehicle has to be a plug-in. An EV with a 16 kWh battery should get the maximum $7500..May be an EV in my future yet. I could use a little runabout with 16KWH battery. Does not mention type of batteries. wonder if a lead acid or NiMH EV will get the bucks?
 
WASHINGTON -- Congressional leaders have added $1 billion in tax breaks for plug-in electric vehicles to a $700 billion Wall Street bailout bill.
 
The provision would grant all-electric vehicles or plug-in models with at least a four-kilowatt battery pack a $4,168 credit. A vehicle like the extended range Chevrolet Volt with a 16-kwh battery would qualify for the maximum $7,500 credit for vehicles under 10,000 pounds.

 
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081002/AUTO01/810020388/1148- /&source=nletter-business
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Re: larsb... [gagrice] by larsb
Nov 05, 2008 (1:35 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 05, 2008 1:31 pm)

Tesla looks to be in there too.
 
As if anyone who can drop $100K on a Tesla needs a $7500 bailout credit.

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