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nope, I read an article from Bob Lutz and he mentioned that the MSRP for Volt will be "in the neighborhood of $30,000." Now, if this car is going to retail for $40,000, that will drive me out of their marketing range. Not gonna pop $40,000 for a Volt, even with the $7,500 Guv-Mint rebate and $2,000 Chev rebate(somewhere, oh somewhere, I read of a $2,000 Chev rebate upon release, as an incentive to sell new Volt's.) I mean Chevy, come on, my current favorite Mitsubishi is coming out with an all-electric in 2010 here, too. And I would love to play you two against each other to drive down the price of one of these babies, eh? A big north-o-the border EH on that one.
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 05, 2008 11:51 am) Since the guvmint is going to pumping at least $25B into the Big 3, plus maybe another $10B for a GM-Chrysler merger, any rebate that GM gives is possible because they are using taxpayer money. So that's $9,500 the guvmint is going to give to help some # of thousands of people, out of a driving population of 200 million. Instead of giving $9,500 to people who can afford a $30K-$40K car, maybe they ought to see if there are any hungry people or children in this country, or someone who needs health care and can't afford it!
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 05, 2008 11:51 am) 2011 Volt to carry a MSRP of around $40,000. That $30K figger was early in the game. After they started crunching more numbers, someone went "Uh-Oh" and they upped the estimate.
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Replying to: kernick (Nov 05, 2008 12:18 pm) I know who SOMEBODY voted for !!!!!
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Replying to: larsb (Nov 05, 2008 12:54 pm) It's been estimated the 400-lb battery pack (largely considered the most important part of the Volt) will tack on an additional $10,000 to the car's price. Did I not read that the tax incentive was for domestic built plug-in hybrid? If the battery the one most expensive component is built in Korea. I would think that would make the car less than 85% domestic which I believe is the point needed. Toyota is not happy they were excluded with their. Plug-in Hybrid. Toyota's objection to the bill does not give high hopes to the upcoming plug-in Prius being eligable for the larger credit. Toyota insists the bill should equally target all plug-in electric vehicle buyers, allowing consumers, not the government, to determine market winners.
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Replying to: larsb (Nov 05, 2008 1:00 pm) I would imagine CA with all its babbling about GHG emissions would give incentives. I think they are broke though. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 05, 2008 1:08 pm) So far General Motors and Toyota are the only automakers that have announced plans to produce plug-in hybrid vehicles in the near future. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 05, 2008 1:14 pm) Only one such vehicle—the Tesla Roadster—is on sale today |
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Replying to: larsb (Nov 05, 2008 1:16 pm) WASHINGTON -- Congressional leaders have added $1 billion in tax breaks for plug-in electric vehicles to a $700 billion Wall Street bailout bill. The provision would grant all-electric vehicles or plug-in models with at least a four-kilowatt battery pack a $4,168 credit. A vehicle like the extended range Chevrolet Volt with a 16-kwh battery would qualify for the maximum $7,500 credit for vehicles under 10,000 pounds. http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081002/AUTO01/810020388/1148- /&source=nletter-business
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