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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 05, 2008 11:33 am) The "real" MSRP is more likely to be close to $40,000, so the Volt will cost more than the average car even with the "proposed" rebates. But hey, anyone who can afford a $600+ car payment and then spend virtually pennies to fuel it, more "electric power" to them. 
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 05, 2008 11:33 am) The diesel threads have of course covered the tremendously overwhelming obstacles high mileage diesel cars have encountered. You will know they are really serious about upping the MPG rate when they give the "125,000 Hummer IRS sec 179 write offs" to business types who are eligible who buy hybrids. |
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nope, I read an article from Bob Lutz and he mentioned that the MSRP for Volt will be "in the neighborhood of $30,000." Now, if this car is going to retail for $40,000, that will drive me out of their marketing range. Not gonna pop $40,000 for a Volt, even with the $7,500 Guv-Mint rebate and $2,000 Chev rebate(somewhere, oh somewhere, I read of a $2,000 Chev rebate upon release, as an incentive to sell new Volt's.) I mean Chevy, come on, my current favorite Mitsubishi is coming out with an all-electric in 2010 here, too. And I would love to play you two against each other to drive down the price of one of these babies, eh? A big north-o-the border EH on that one.
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 05, 2008 11:51 am) Since the guvmint is going to pumping at least $25B into the Big 3, plus maybe another $10B for a GM-Chrysler merger, any rebate that GM gives is possible because they are using taxpayer money. So that's $9,500 the guvmint is going to give to help some # of thousands of people, out of a driving population of 200 million. Instead of giving $9,500 to people who can afford a $30K-$40K car, maybe they ought to see if there are any hungry people or children in this country, or someone who needs health care and can't afford it!  
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 05, 2008 11:51 am) 2011 Volt to carry a MSRP of around $40,000. That $30K figger was early in the game. After they started crunching more numbers, someone went "Uh-Oh" and they upped the estimate.
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Replying to: kernick (Nov 05, 2008 12:18 pm) I know who SOMEBODY voted for !!!!!  
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Replying to: larsb (Nov 05, 2008 12:54 pm) It's been estimated the 400-lb battery pack (largely considered the most important part of the Volt) will tack on an additional $10,000 to the car's price. Did I not read that the tax incentive was for domestic built plug-in hybrid? If the battery the one most expensive component is built in Korea. I would think that would make the car less than 85% domestic which I believe is the point needed. Toyota is not happy they were excluded with their. Plug-in Hybrid. Toyota's objection to the bill does not give high hopes to the upcoming plug-in Prius being eligable for the larger credit. Toyota insists the bill should equally target all plug-in electric vehicle buyers, allowing consumers, not the government, to determine market winners.
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Replying to: larsb (Nov 05, 2008 1:00 pm) I would imagine CA with all its babbling about GHG emissions would give incentives. I think they are broke though. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 05, 2008 1:08 pm) So far General Motors and Toyota are the only automakers that have announced plans to produce plug-in hybrid vehicles in the near future. |
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