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on a cross Canada jet flight. That is about what the average small car produces in one year. We are beating the wrong horse. What’s being done about emissions from air transportation? Not much, unfortunately. Countries with national emissions targets under the Kyoto Protocol, like Canada, are only required to account for emissions from domestic flights. Emissions from international flights are not counted. And very little has been done to actually limit these emissions. To date the only formal plan to control and reduce international aviation emissions is being developed within the European Union (EU). |
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Replying to: tpe (Mar 06, 2007 7:09 am) Makes perfect sense to me. You are confusing the words "industrial" with "industry". It can be said there is a motion-picture "industry", a public-service "industry", a pharmaceutical "industry", etc etc yet NONE of these things are generally thought of as being "industrial". Yes, there IS a global-warming "industry" (ie. a large loose collective of individuals, groups, and businesses which make money from the concept of global-warming). And yes, by and large this group is anti-industrial. Yes, one can identify corelations between global increases in CO2 and global increases in temperature. It's the CAUSATION which is (IMO) still up for debate. "Okay, then what does cause this level to change?" Consider: roughly 40% of the photosynthesis on Earth is done by bacteria in the worlds oceans. With fluctuations in water temperature, huge die-offs of these bacteria can occur, resulting in less removal of CO2 from the atmosphere. So, which phenomenon causes which? All that is discussed is that CO2 CAUSES temps to increase due to the greenhouse effect. But, do temp fluctuations resulting in bacteria reductions in the oceans CAUSE less removal of CO2? I'm not saying one event 100% causes the other; I'm simply wondering why other explanations (besides it's ALL MAN'S FAULT) aren't being discussed.
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 06, 2007 6:33 am) That seems to be the premise this "myth" position is based upon. First off let's agree that these scientists have a greater knowledge of factors that effect climate and the atmosphere than you or I. In that case they aren't mistaken about global warming, they are deliberately lying. So a large international collection of highly educated professionals have entered into an agreement to mislead the world in order to receive research grants? Research grants to further study global warming, which they already know is a myth. Are they getting rich off these grants? In order for these type of people to prostitute their science the financial incentive would have to be substantial. And even then a good percentage would have the integrity to expose the myth. Conspiracies do happen but I find this one to be somewhat implausible just because of the scope, the individuals involved, and the fact that they are spread out over the globe. It would be interesting to see this program. I suspect it will have a documentary flavor to it, kind of like a Michael Moore film.
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Replying to: rorr (Mar 06, 2007 7:39 am) simply wondering why other explanations (besides it's ALL MAN'S FAULT) aren't being discussed. Why does it have to be all or nothing? Why can't we conclude that man is a contributing factor. That contribution is greater than 0% and less than 100%. To me someone stating that global warming is a myth is taking the position that mankind is not contributing to global warming or his contribution is negligible. Your reference to bacteria affecting CO2 levels is a good one. If bacteria can impact the environment why can't man? |
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Replying to: tpe (Mar 06, 2007 7:43 am) |
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Replying to: tpe (Mar 06, 2007 8:02 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 06, 2007 8:24 am) i just know that the less greenhouse gases you product, the better |
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We're not holding a "how to save the planet and who's full of baloney seminar" here.  The question is...are today's vehicles possibly contributing to global warming, so let's keep it focused on that. Thanks for your cooperation!
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Replying to: KarenS (Mar 06, 2007 9:26 am)
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Ted Turner was touting his 'millions invested' in global warming technology. The facts are that there is no real evidence, when one examines the facts, that humans have anything to do with climate change. Read the facts. http://www.nov55.com/gbwg.html |
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