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Replying to: sidious6688 (Oct 31, 2008 12:56 am)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Oct 30, 2008 7:29 pm) I was YAWNing Gary's posting something that declared something we already knew......that we don't know what's causing the warming....... Duh. YAWN.........
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 31, 2008 5:55 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 31, 2008 6:37 am) And the CONCLUSION is what I was yawning, not the data or the method. "One thing does seem very clear, however; science is only beginning to get a handle on the big picture of global warming. " That's the big DUH. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 30, 2008 4:01 pm) I think larsb wants us back to 1790. Anyone up for a little plague? |
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Replying to: houdini1 (Oct 31, 2008 5:54 am) |
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 30, 2008 6:48 am) Just because you do not see a value in research doesn't make it worthless. Do you think other countries will stop doing research. Within a decade or two of us stopping research the U.S. would become nothing more than a banana republic. “China's Spending on Research and Development Growing Faster than U.S. ... While the United States still has a bigger share of the global R&D market, second-ranked China is gaining ground.” http://www.inc.com/news/articles/200610/china.html Companies throw money away on useless research and products all the time. Sometimes their research is second to none as in the case of Bell Labs. Do you think AT&T would have gotten were they did if they had stopped basic research? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Labs “As a tax payer I find the following pork unacceptable. ...Representative Mike Thompson (D-Calif.) for $211,509 in olive fruit fly research in Paris, France. “ You are kidding right?  $211K, a General in the Military sneezing would spend more money than that. Have you heard the expression penny wise and pound foolish? Try this link: http://sarahpalintruthsquad.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/memo-to-sarah-palin-fruit-f- ly-research-has-led-to-advances-in-understanding-autism-video/ Basic research is important. Research into climate is also important. How much money we can spend is certainly open to debate, but if we stop doing research we will be in trouble. The rest of the world will not stand still.
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Replying to: kernick (Oct 30, 2008 5:25 am) Molten Earth core vs Solar contribution of energy "The simple answer is that the temperature of the earth's core has nothing to do with the presence of the sun. " http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=29757 Neutrino flux measurements from the Earth's core (see kamLAND) show the source of about two-thirds of the heat in the inner core is the radioactive decay of 40K, uranium and thorium. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convection http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/env99/env087.htm "As you guessed, the earth's interior would have cooled off by now if there weren't some source of energy. That source happens to be radioactive decay of elements such as uranium. This process continually heats the earth, and does not defy the second law of thermodynamics."
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“Electric lighting consumes 19 percent of the world's electricity grid production. If all the incandescent light bulbs in the United States were replaced with CFLs, the country would avoid 158 million tons of carbon dioxide emissions, according to an industry estimate, the equivalent of removing more than 30 million cars off the road.” http://www.enn.com/sci-tech/article/38545 Great, now everybody quick change all your light bulbs. We got this GW problem licked. But wait........ “GROWTH RATE Growth of world fleet: World car fleet is growing at about 6.5%/year or 55 million net additional cars/year (car production 2007: about 70 million, 15 million scrapped in year). Fast growth in China, India, East Europe, Africa, Mid East and Latin America easily counterbalances the slight contraction (about 1% to 2%/year since 2005) in a few western EU countries and declining growth of car fleet in USA.” http://www.serendipity.li/fe/car_fact_sheet.htm Crazy, even if we could somehow get everybody to change to CFLs tomorrow, the increase in the world car fleet would wipe that out in 6 months....BUT... the bigger problem is not GW....the problem will be the fight over oil and resources as the world population creeps ever upward....
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Nov 02, 2008 4:41 pm) I think you are mistaken. If I give you a million dollars to prove the earth is flat I have wasted my money. If the government gives you a million dollars to prove water is bad for us the government has wasted our tax dollars. The difference is I have the right to waste my money on research. The Federal Government does not have that right. They have taken liberties with our tax dollars that would not hold up to the scrutiny of the Constitution if we had a court that was accountable. Spending my tax dollars on research would be acceptable if it was not researching a predetermined conclusion. Man Made Global Warming being one of the biggest scams we have had to deal with. I'm not sure your point on industrial R&D. That is necessary and not all will produce results that are useful. Just the cost of doing business.
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