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#3958 of 6849 Re: MIT questions GW theory [larsb] by gagrice Oct 30, 2008 (4:01 pm)
Replying to: larsb (Oct 30, 2008 3:00 pm) This was in response to those that still believe there is a consensus. If you find the MIT study boring so be it. It is still a part of the puzzle and further evidence that we know very little about Climate Change. For sure not enough to shut down life as we know it and try to go back to 1990. Replies to this message: oldfarmer50 (Oct 31, 2008 2:41 pm)
#3959 of 6849 Re: MIT questions GW theory [larsb] by houdini1 Oct 30, 2008 (7:29 pm)
Replying to: larsb (Oct 30, 2008 3:00 pm) Yawn? Come on Larsb, why would you attempt to belittle and yawn at a scientific study from MIT? Where is that open and well read mind of yours? Replies to this message: larsb (Oct 31, 2008 5:55 am) gagrice (Oct 31, 2008 6:37 am) larsb (Oct 31, 2008 6:52 am)
#3960 of 6849 Re: global temperature changes [Mr_Shiftright] by sidious6688 Oct 31, 2008 (12:56 am)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 07, 2006 5:30 pm) I think disappearing ice in the artic is indisputable as well. However, while the Ross Ice sheet in the Antartic may also be shrinking, the total amount of ice in Antartica is increasing. Antartic ice contains over 90% of the world's fresh water. Replies to this message: houdini1 (Oct 31, 2008 5:54 am) sidious6688 (Nov 01, 2008 3:07 am)
#3961 of 6849 Re: global temperature changes [sidious6688] by houdini1 Oct 31, 2008 (5:54 am)
Replying to: sidious6688 (Oct 31, 2008 12:56 am) OK, I am not disputing your claim that Antarctic ice contains over 90% of the world's fresh water, but...where in the heck did all that ice come from during the ice age when glaciers covered so much of the globe? Replies to this message: sidious6688 (Nov 01, 2008 3:07 am)
#3962 of 6849 Re: MIT questions GW theory [houdini1] by larsb Oct 31, 2008 (5:55 am)
Replying to: houdini1 (Oct 30, 2008 7:29 pm) Wasn't YAWNing the MIT study.   I was YAWNing Gary's posting something that declared something we already knew......that we don't know what's causing the warming.......   Duh.   YAWN......... Replies to this message: gagrice (Oct 31, 2008 6:37 am) larsb (Oct 31, 2008 6:52 am)
#3963 of 6849 Re: MIT questions GW theory [larsb] by gagrice Oct 31, 2008 (6:37 am)
Replying to: larsb (Oct 31, 2008 5:55 am) If you already knew about the methane distribution, why didn't you let MIT know? That would have saved them a lot of time and money. We are here to determine if the automobile is the cause of GW/CC. That was just one more bit of evidence to the contrary. I do not remember you or anyone else posting that information before. If any evidence that does not confirm your belief in man made GW bores you, maybe you should join Al Gore's team. There is always room for one more zealot that will blindly follow his THEORIES. Replies to this message: larsb (Oct 31, 2008 6:52 am)
#3964 of 6849 Re: MIT questions GW theory [gagrice] by larsb Oct 31, 2008 (6:52 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Oct 31, 2008 6:37 am) Methane as a GHG is not new news. This is nothing "contrary" to man-made GHG. We have always known that Methane was a GHG.   And the CONCLUSION is what I was yawning, not the data or the method.   "One thing does seem very clear, however; science is only beginning to get a handle on the big picture of global warming. " That's the big DUH.
#3965 of 6849 Re: MIT questions GW theory [gagrice] by oldfarmer50 Oct 31, 2008 (2:41 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Oct 30, 2008 4:01 pm) "...For sure not enough to shut down life as we know it and try to go back to 1990..."   I think larsb wants us back to 1790. Anyone up for a little plague?
#3966 of 6849 Re: global temperature changes [houdini1] by sidious6688 Nov 01, 2008 (3:07 am)
Replying to: houdini1 (Oct 31, 2008 5:54 am) Glaciers come from snowfall. Summer and winter temperatures are insufficient to allow for snow melt and so build up year after year. In time the weight of the snow on the snow beneath it turns to ice from the pressure. The continually building pressure and gravity cause the ice to "flow." Antarctic ice is miles thick at this point.
#3967 of 6849 Re: global warming a croc [gagrice] by avalon02wh Nov 02, 2008 (4:41 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Oct 30, 2008 6:48 am) “ The government is the only entity that throws money away on worthless research.”   Just because you do not see a value in research doesn't make it worthless. Do you think other countries will stop doing research. Within a decade or two of us stopping research the U.S. would become nothing more than a banana republic.   “China's Spending on Research and Development Growing Faster than U.S. ... While the United States still has a bigger share of the global R&D market, second-ranked China is gaining ground.” http://www.inc.com/news/articles/200610/china.html   Companies throw money away on useless research and products all the time. Sometimes their research is second to none as in the case of Bell Labs. Do you think AT&T would have gotten were they did if they had stopped basic research? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Labs   “As a tax payer I find the following pork unacceptable. ...Representative Mike Thompson (D-Calif.) for $211,509 in olive fruit fly research in Paris, France. “   You are kidding right? $211K, a General in the Military sneezing would spend more money than that. Have you heard the expression penny wise and pound foolish? Try this link: http://sarahpalintruthsquad.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/memo-to-sarah-palin-fruit-f- ly-research-has-led-to-advances-in-understanding-autism-video/   Basic research is important. Research into climate is also important. How much money we can spend is certainly open to debate, but if we stop doing research we will be in trouble. The rest of the world will not stand still. Replies to this message: gagrice (Nov 02, 2008 5:39 pm) avalon02wh (Nov 04, 2008 3:14 pm) gagrice (Nov 04, 2008 4:14 pm)

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