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Automotive News & Views Are automobiles a major cause of global warming?
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Oct 17, 2008 3:45 am) Do you mean like the UN conference in Bali, where scientists with opposing viewpoints were not invited or blocked from attending? I have no doubt that much of the science surrounding the GW/CC is legitimate. When the politicians take it and pull out what they want to use, then claim a consensus, all that scientific evidence becomes suspect. Vehicles do contribute to global warming. How much and what we should do about it is another story Possibly so. Livestock, volcanoes, burning of land to grow corn, sugar and soybeans all emit GHG. And I believe the SUN may play a part in all this climate change. Maybe you have been watching to many science fiction movies with mad scientists in them. I did not see "An Inconvenient Truth". 
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 17, 2008 6:48 am) If it bears out I think we can probably forget worrying about CO2 emissions from cars. We're - possibly - doomed regardless. Will the Earth miss us ? Not even slightly. Enjoy.  METHANE AS GHG
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Replying to: alltorque (Oct 17, 2008 7:57 am) We work hard to dis- acknowledge GOD, yet attribute god like powers to an ICE.!!!????  Bas ackwards if you axe me, but that is my unscientific .02 cents. Scientifically? Well... ya got to play the game if you want to remain in the career!!???
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Someone better find out what is causing this or the Polar Bear, reindeer, and caribou are doomed..........: Arctic Glowing Red Arctic air temperatures climb to record levels Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:01pm EDT WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Fall air temperatures have climbed to record levels in the Arctic due to major losses of sea ice as the region suffers more effects from a warming trend dating back decades, a report released on Thursday showed. The annual report issued by researchers at the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and other experts is the latest to paint a dire picture of the impact of climate change in the Arctic. It found that fall air temperatures are at a record 9 degrees Fahrenheit (5 degrees C) above normal in the Arctic because of the major loss of sea ice in recent years that allows more solar heating of the ocean. That warming of the air and ocean impacts land and marine life and cuts the amount of winter sea ice that lasts into the following summer, according to the report. In addition, wild reindeer and caribou herds appear to be declining in numbers, according to the report. The report also noted melting of surface ice in Greenland. "Changes in the Arctic show a domino effect from multiple causes more clearly than in other regions," James Overland, an oceanographer at NOAA's Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory in Seattle one of the authors of the report, said in a statement. "It's a sensitive system and often reflects changes in relatively fast and dramatic ways." Researchers at the National Snow and Ice Data Center, part of the University of Colorado, reported last month that Arctic sea ice melted to its second-lowest level this summer. The 2008 season, those researchers said, strongly reinforces a 30-year downward trend in Arctic ice extent -- 34 percent below the long-term average from 1979 to 2000, but 9 percent above the record low set in 2007.
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 17, 2008 8:35 am) Rest assured there are people and orgainizations that already are. However if you look back in that "kind" of history many many species of most categories have done exactly what you fear- gone extinct. Indeed because we do not believe in God anymore...it is....NATURAL. Indeed the only thing that is constant is....CHANGE. |
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Replying to: alltorque (Oct 17, 2008 7:57 am) Underground stores of methane are important because scientists believe their sudden release has in the past been responsible for rapid increases in global temperatures, dramatic changes to the climate, and even the mass extinction of species. Scientists aboard a research ship that has sailed the entire length of Russia's northern coast have discovered intense concentrations of methane – sometimes at up to 100 times background levels – over several areas covering thousands of square miles of the Siberian continental shelf. The amount of methane stored beneath the Arctic is calculated to be greater than the total amount of carbon locked up in global coal reserves so there is intense interest in the stability of these deposits as the region warms at a faster rate than other places on earth. Better get Palin's pipeline to the Midwest going. So they can tap into those massive stores of Methane. Oh, I forgot no trespassing on the tundra. We know that the Arctic was tropical at one time. It may be headed in that direction again. It was never tropical feeling the 25 years I spent in the Arctic.
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 17, 2008 8:47 am) At a base I was stationed 34-32 years ago, they had  least once a week flights to Iceland. I was never a taker, especially in the winter. It was sort of like: it is more than cold here and I want to spend hours and hours to go to a place much colder !!?? To listen to some folks now, it is the new Miami! 
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Replying to: rightmove (Oct 15, 2008 11:18 pm) Check your owner's manual - many manufacturers just say to wash your car occasionally and don't even mention wax. Paint is lots better than its ever been and wax - to quote an expert around here - is just for glamour. Mr_Shiftright, "Teflon Paint Sealants Revisited" #7, 10 Jul 2003 10:33 am |
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 17, 2008 8:35 am) I got both AC units going full blast and the Freezers standing open. Are we freezing up the Arctic yet? This and the other article about the seeping methane show how futile man's attempts to control the climate really are. Does anyone really think that we could all stop using fossil fuel and this phenomenon would reverse itself. We will either adapt to whatever comes along or die. Very simple. |
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Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 17, 2008 6:08 am) No, it was not my opinion but a response to the statement below. "Sadly many scientists have so little integrity they will twist the data to say whatever the person paying the bill wants." I find it interesting that you know what he means while ignoring the actual statement. The word 'many' means amounting to a large but indefinite number. He may have meant something different, but the above sentence is what showed up on the screen. "...as you see yourself as part of "that" group (a scientist) and felt he was broad brushing YOU. He was NOT (per se). " It is not a question of me seeing myself as that group. I am a scientist. It is a simple factual statement. And his statement was a broad brush against all scientists. It is a type of fallacious argument where a person attacks or generalizes about a group. Using that type of reasoning you could never take any medication because medications are formulated by scientists who are just doing the evil bidding of the drug companies. How many things have been developed by scientists over the last few hundred years? Better not use any; it is all a scam.  And as to the question of MTBE, the refinery industry wanted to use MTBE even though they knew it would leak out of fuel tanks and pollute local ground water. It was a bad decision. But it also illustrates why we need to do a better job of defining GW before we jump to solutions. |
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