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Re: Weekend cold set new record lows [gagrice] by houdini1
Oct 14, 2008 (7:47 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 14, 2008 7:19 pm)

No, he is finishing up his new book warning about the coming ice age and how it is a direct result of global warming. I'm sure millions will fall for it and believe it makes perfect sense.
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Re: Weekend cold set new record lows [houdini1] by rightmove
Oct 14, 2008 (11:19 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Oct 14, 2008 7:47 pm)

That's the most depressing thing I've read all day.
 
Burn the book for heat!!!
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Re: Alaska glaciers grew this year, thanks to colder weather [gagrice] by avalon02wh
Oct 15, 2008 (3:30 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 14, 2008 7:12 pm)

Global warming grips Greenland, leaves lasting mark
http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081012/NEWS06/810109858/0/NE- WS08
"Although millions of people across the world still aren't convinced global warming exists or that it's as big a problem as scientists claim, symptoms of the planet's warming pop up everywhere in Greenland."
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7573530.stm
"Exotic species of spiders are making their homes in the UK, scientists say. Researchers believe arachnids arriving in imports of food and plants are now able to survive and spread thanks to the UK's increasingly mild climate. "
 
"Record temperatures destroy wheat crops"
http://news.theage.com.au/national/record-temperatures-destroy-wheat-crops-20081- 002-4sa6.html
 
Researchers Study Coastal Hazards of Increasing Wave Heights, Rising Sea Levels
"http://www.physorg.com/news142863701.html"
 
"Climate warms, creatures head for the hills "
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/37485/title/Climate_warms,_creatures_- head_for_the_hills
 
Woes of climate change
http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=102286
"Develop a greater understanding of the projected impacts and prepare for these changes."
 
As you can see, I can come up with many examples of climate change. Year to year weather changes are not the key to understanding GW. You need to look at the climate not the weather.
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Re: Alaska glaciers grew this year, thanks to colder weather [avalon02wh] by gagrice
Oct 15, 2008 (6:18 am)
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Oct 15, 2008 3:30 am)

When the high priest of CC says the glaciers receding is an imminent sign of Global Warming, I am relieved to let him know that the glaciers are not receding as he claimed.
 
My contention is that the GW Cult uses weather related data to draw their conclusions. Such as Katrina. Why then are weather related items such as coldest winter on record in many parts of the World, NOT considered part of the data?
 
I believe that the data received by the media is directly relative to the grants received by those posting the data.
 
The people pushing a Global Warming agenda are in it for the money. There is no money in denying GW. No carbon credit scam. No big World government grants. Only getting the truth out to the masses that bought into crap like the Al Gore fictional movie.
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Re: Alaska glaciers grew this year, thanks to colder weather [avalon02wh] by larsb
Oct 15, 2008 (6:25 am)
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Oct 15, 2008 3:30 am)

Thank you for posting the "anti" side of things. I told Gary I was going t post a "local weather WARMER" story for every "local weather COLDER" story he posts.
 
You beat me to it and saved me the trouble. Thanks !!!!

 
Illinois: Temperatures were much warmer across Illinois this past week. Producers are reporting a decrease in corn moisture levels, but most are still choosing to harvest soybeans first. There were 5.8 days suitable for fieldwork. The average temperature was 6.6 degrees above normal.
 
Financial meltdown just a curtain-raiser to what we face with global warming
 
Like subprime assets, carbon assets keep many complex risks hidden from investors. Cost impacts from extreme weather events and legislation on greenhouse gases are expected to emerge as risk factors in pricing stocks and assigning credit and asset valuations. A warmer planet is joining capital and labour as the new resource constraint likely to alter production costs. And carbon emissions are also likely to increase the size of liabilities in key industries, from power plants to airlines.
 
Climate change will affect all parts of the financial services industry and all classes of investment. The global electricity market is worth trillions of dollars a year and energy is fundamental to economic growth. And, with $US6 trillion ($A8.5 trillion) in market capitalisation, the banks will play a critical role as they are the world's capital providers and the lead risk management experts.
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Re: Alaska glaciers grew this year, thanks to colder weather [larsb] by gagrice
Oct 15, 2008 (6:36 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 15, 2008 6:25 am)

We could all be in a deep freeze and your GW buddies would be out trying to legislate carbon credit taxes. It will cost all of US more money for utilities to satisfy their ignorance. We need a revolution against Congress before they destroy our economy worse than they already have.
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Re: me so warmy !!!!! [avalon02wh] by oldfarmer50
Oct 15, 2008 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Oct 14, 2008 3:34 am)

"...we stop emitting greenhouse gases entirely..."
 
That would require that we stop breathing. I'm sure that is the ultimate goal of such GW/CC kooks.
 
To those radicals I say "YOU FIRST".
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Re: Alaska glaciers grew this year, thanks to colder weather [gagrice] by kernick
Oct 15, 2008 (8:44 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 15, 2008 6:36 am)

I'm saving my carbon credits now, so I can make the journey to Washington.
 
I have no faith in either party, as the lobbyists own both of them thru election and other contributions.
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Re: Alaska glaciers grew this year, thanks to colder weather [avalon02wh] by houdini1
Oct 15, 2008 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Oct 15, 2008 3:30 am)

As you can see, I can come up with many examples of climate change. Year to year weather changes are not the key to understanding GW. You need to look at the climate not the weather.
 
Unless, of course, you are an advocate of man made GW. Then it is perfectly alright to cite every little weather blip to to forward your agenda.
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Re: Alaska glaciers grew this year, thanks to colder weather [avalon02wh] by kernick
Oct 15, 2008 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Oct 15, 2008 3:30 am)

As you can see, I can come up with many examples of climate change.
 
The fact that the climate has changed, is changing, and will continue to change, is not in dispute. The problem is to discern if the current change is any different than what has historically happened (and we're not just talking the last 200 years), and is it caused by man.
 
Secondly if there is change, is it necessarily bad? I don't see a warming as bad, for many reasons. I tend to see the glass 3/4 full on any warming. I hope we all have Hawaii type weather and environment soon.

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