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Replying to: vchiu (Jul 16, 2008 7:05 pm) Let us quit double standards and do what must be done instead of whining before high gas price and doing nothing. I don't consider the Interstate Highway system a mistake at ALL. Most people in the US are glad we have it and are using it. Many more lower middle class families are able to afford a driving vacation than they would a train or plane vacation because of the highway system. We will need a lot more highways when a good alternative to fossil fuel is mainstream. With cheap nuclear, wind and solar power everyone will have cheap transportation. Kind of like the old "A chicken in every Pot" campaign. Recharge your EV for a 500 mile range for $5 bucks. Get people to spread out across the beautiful country and alleviate the congestion caused by big cities. In the mean time, I cannot think of two cities in the USA I would want to ride an HST between more than ONCE. I don't think that will justify the expense. EVs for the masses will be the answer to all our problems... I might consider a fast train ride from San Diego to Sacramento. I would like to see the Railroad Museum up there. It is one of the best in the world. I don't think I will still be around to ride that route. So we may just bite the bullet and buy the gas for the trip up there in the Sequoia.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 16, 2008 8:08 pm) I had to take CA history when I was in college (35 years ago) and curiously STILL had the book and read back up on it. As we went through the museum it almost plugs in to some of the themes of the railroad museum. The book 1969/1973 "California An Interpretive History" 2nd edition (Professor) Walton E. Bean. Truly the Railroad Museum is a slice of the story of the westward migration. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 16, 2008 4:12 pm) Why stop there? After all, humans are a large source od Co2 emissions, right. Why not just require a government permit to exhale? Think of the GHG that can be stored in people's lungs. Of course we would have to start with the rich because they breath more air than the rest of us. |
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Someone needs to tell the Earf that GW is a hoax. The climate doesn't seem to want to get that message. June 2008 the 8th warmest on record NOAA: Eighth Warmest June on Record for Globe July 16, 2008 The combined average global land and ocean surface temperatures for June 2008 ranked eighth warmest for June since worldwide records began in 1880, according to an analysis by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. Also, globally it was the ninth warmest January – June period on record. Global Highlights * The combined global land and ocean surface temperature for June 2008 was 60.8 degrees F, which is 0.9 degrees F above the 20th century mean of 59.9 degrees F. * Separately, the global land surface temperature was 57.2 degrees F, which is 1.3 degrees F above the 20th century mean of 55.9 degrees F. * The global ocean surface temperature was 62.2 degrees F, which is 0.7 degrees F above the 20th century mean of 61.5 degrees F. * For the January – June period, the combined global land and ocean surface temperature was 57.1 degrees F, which is 0.8 degrees F about the 20th century mean of 56.3 degrees F. Other Highlights * Northern Hemisphere Arctic sea ice extent for June 2008 ranked third lowest for June since records began in 1979. Southern Hemisphere Antarctic sea ice extent for June 2008 was above the 1979-2000 mean, ranking as the second largest June extent. Interesting that since 1979, there were two more years with less arctic sea ice than this year. Wonder what years?
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It's been a nice and cool summer for us. We're having our first day over 90 according tot he news stations. Normally we would have had some 90s days by now!. We're also had enough precipiation, but I suspect that was only because AlGore approved it because someone blessed his funds by buying carbon credits!!!
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Replying to: larsb (Jul 17, 2008 8:33 am) By the way the HOAX is thinking we can buy our way out of any climate change. The climate changes we change with it. If we don't we die. Very simple even for me to understand. |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 17, 2008 8:37 am) |
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Texas approves massive new wind power project (AP) So, where are they going to dispose of all the waste wind? And what about all the poor folks downwind of the wind? As near as I can tell, they are going to spend $4.9 billion for 13,000 megawatts of wind power. Numbers are all over the map, but it seems that the cost of a 1,500-megawatt nuclear plant is around $9 billion. And I don't think that number includes waste management. 10 years ago I would have guessed that all the massive headlines would have been about solar, not wind. |
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 17, 2008 9:43 am) Having seen the Big Dig road-project financial cost double several times during the project, I'm guessing this will cost around $20B and be about 5 years late. The wind project will be worth it, if the systems are low maintenance and have a long-life. To keep costs down and provide rehabilitation and skills, I'd like to suggest we all petition our reps. to use our 2 million prisoners to build the equipment, and install it. Time to give up the weights and TV. |
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 17, 2008 9:43 am) I think that wind has become the eco energy of choice. The issue will be getting locations that are consistently windy and not an eyesore to the locals. Wind for big power. Solar for individuals if they ever get the price reasonable. Solar has not advanced nearly as well as wind generation. Wind blows 24 hours a day in some places. Sun at best is half the year with loss for clouds. I am just as surprised as you are. I remember that mess along Interstate 10 going toward Palm Springs. Most of the generators were broke and laying flat on the ground.
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