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Are automobiles a major cause of global warming?

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Re: Consider This... [larsb] by gagrice
Jul 16, 2008 (3:01 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jul 16, 2008 2:14 pm)

Kind of ironic. They probably closed the coal mine because the people quit using coal for fuel. So it burns itself up. Seems like they could re-open the mine and start digging it out and using it. Better that it pollutes doing something than just dumping GHG into the air with no benefit.
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Volcanos. by ruking1
Jul 16, 2008 (3:34 pm)
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Death in the deep: Volcanoes blamed for mass extinction
 
link title
 
So what was "WRONG" with
 
..."Palm trees grew in what would be Alaska, large reptiles roamed in northern Canada and the ice-free Arctic Ocean warmed to the equivalent of a tepid swimming pool."...
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Re: Consider This... [steve_] by imidazol97
Jul 16, 2008 (3:53 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 16, 2008 1:49 pm)

>but a coal vein has been burning
 
This is perfect. I've read about this before.
 
All we need to do is collect all that excess CO2 that people are making that some think is causing climate change. Then we put the CO2 into the mine to put out the fire. Just seal off all the entrances. The CO2 is heavier than air so pour it in one opening and it settles and voila, no oxygen because the CO2 has filled the mine!
 
And here Battelle is spending good public grant money for a study of how to compress CO2 into a rock structure underground to get rid of a gas causing global warming (some think). Of course the CO2 is going to migrate through the rock and escape into the ground water and carbonate it.. Fizzy water out the tap, anyone?
 
What's even funnier is the CO2 they're trying to get rid of is from a greenies dream process of making ethanol!!! The green ethanol produces a side product that's causing global warming (some think).
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Re: Consider This... [imidazol97] by ruking1
Jul 16, 2008 (4:03 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 16, 2008 3:53 pm)

Next targets..... the greenies FOODIE favorites BEER, WINE, SPIRITS? They of course give off tons of C02!!....
 
Bulldoze those farming for the above: like : Burgundy? Champage? Napa Valley? etc etc etc???
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Re: Consider This... [ruking1] by imidazol97
Jul 16, 2008 (4:05 pm)
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>They of course give off tons of C02!!....
 
And the cattle giving meat and milk emit, hold on to your hat, both CO2 and CH4 (methane)!!!
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Re: Consider This... [imidazol97] by ruking1
Jul 16, 2008 (4:08 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 16, 2008 4:05 pm)

Then of course if you are vegetarian, you might be rationed because those "food sources" actually EAT C02. So what is more important given the fascist policies people getting "FAT" or saving the EAF from C02.....? So do we now give "FAT FOLKS" time to lose weight and if they don't we now execute them because they produce too much C02? (taking the place of vestial virgins, etc etc) ..... George Orwell's 1984 has been happening for MANY MANY YEARS.
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Re: Volcanos. [ruking1] by gagrice
Jul 16, 2008 (4:08 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 16, 2008 3:34 pm)

Bralower says that figuring out the post-volcanism scenario could help scientists wrestling with unknowns about global warming today.
 
He should have asked Al Gore, he has all the answers. Heck they gave him some kind of funky award because he knows SO much about Global Warming.
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Re: Consider This... [imidazol97] by gagrice
Jul 16, 2008 (4:12 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 16, 2008 4:05 pm)

I guess Ted Turner was right. By the time the greenies outlaw all the food, we will just have to eat each other. Without BaBaQu sauce, YUCK
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Re: Someone needs to let the North Pole know [steve_] by vchiu
Jul 16, 2008 (5:40 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 16, 2008 8:55 am)

>I suspect a HST from NYC to Miami would be popular
 
I speculate that a HST line from Portland to Miami would take about 7 hours. This would not be enough to beat the plane on those destinations, but would be still competitive in intermediate city to city transport.
 
There are maybe 30 millions people living along such a corridor. It may cost 100 to 150 billion USD. It would certainly make sense in the long term, but I don't expect private investors to have that kind of money.
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Re: Someone needs to let the North Pole know [vchiu] by gagrice
Jul 16, 2008 (5:53 pm)
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Replying to: vchiu (Jul 16, 2008 5:40 pm)

It may cost 100 to 150 billion USD. It would certainly make sense in the long term, but I don't expect private investors to have that kind of money.
 
Neither does the US government. We are $9.5 TRILLION in debt and a big chunk of our current budget of $3 trillion will add to that debt. Maybe after we pay that down a few trillion we think about HST. You will have to get through Congress. Each Senator has a state that wants something. You spend $100 billion on one state the other 49 want their share. That would be about $5 trillion in one bill to get a HST from DC to Miami or where ever. When the $25 billion was allocated in 1956 we had a balanced budget we were not adding to the National Debt. Our President was impressed with the German Autobahn and wanted US to have that kind of system across the USA. It was to be for every state at the time. What you are proposing will only benefit very small segments of the population. That is hard to get through Congress that wants to please the whole USA.

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