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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jul 16, 2008 12:14 pm) Carbon credits would be the equivalent/ are the proposed "secular" version of practices long past, but effectively have had the same effect: ZERO......................... Global warming? NO CARS during this period? There are psychological archetypal deep seated needs these fulfull, however......So if ya make moo lah from the concept.....................
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 16, 2008 12:13 pm) "Is it possible this has something to do with the ice melting? " the answer is a resounding NOT QUITE. If that were a significant cause, all the anti-GW organizations and scientists would be standing on that report with a megaphone declaring the melting arctic ice as having nothing to do with GW. Have you seen such events occurring? |
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jul 16, 2008 12:14 pm) From Wikipedia on the subject: "Globally, thousands of inextinguishable mine fires are burning, especially in China and India, where poverty, lack of government regulations and runaway development combine to create an environmental disaster. Modern strip mining exposes smoldering coal seams to the air, revitalizing the flames. Rural Chinese in coal-bearing regions often dig coal for household use, abandoning the pits when they become unworkably deep, leaving highly combustible coal dust exposed to the air. Using satellite imagery to map China's coal fires resulted in the discovery of many previously unknown fires. The oldest coal fire in China is in Baijigou and is said to have been burning since the Qing Dynasty." It would be nice if the world could put its resources into putting out those coal fires instead of fighting wars, or, as the rich oil countries in the Middle East do, put all their money into palaces and resorts.
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 16, 2008 12:34 pm) So you are saying that they are going to sacrifice our money because there are no virgins left?
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jul 16, 2008 12:38 pm)   
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jul 16, 2008 12:14 pm) |
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jul 16, 2008 12:37 pm) Centralia Mine Fire
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 16, 2008 1:49 pm) Seems like we could put it out for far less than 42 million bones. I don't know enough about coal mining of coal mines, but there ARE experts in this area. This needs to be handed to someone competent like "America's Mayor Rudy" and get the dang thing put out. My gosh - what year is this - 1888? We can't muster enough ingenuity and technology to put out a coal mine fire? |
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Replying to: larsb (Jul 16, 2008 2:14 pm) I didn't read the article but if I remember correctly, coal fires are tough to put out because the burn in the CEILING of the mine. You can pour all the water you want into the mine and it just runs along the FLOOR and out the many cracks in the rock. It's like trying to fill up a sieve. I don't think you can send fire fighters in to attack it directly either because the fire works it's way into small areas and because of the toxic gases. I may be wrong on this but thats seems to be how I remember reading about it. |
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