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Replying to: vchiu (Jul 14, 2008 7:25 am) That is always the argument used to justify additional spending. That money is spent. Or should I say tacked onto the National debt. We should be looking for ways to spend less money not more. We should be paying down that debt not adding to it. As far as taxing gas like they do in the EU. That will not fly. We are near revolt over the current gas prices. Those kind of jolts to a society have to come slowly. If gas doubled over 5 years it would be accepted much better than one year doubling. We have politicians trying to save their jobs by cutting the measly 18 cents a gallon we now pay in Federal highway tax. Why do people think that we should tax automobile drivers to finance mass transit? why not tack an additional tax on air travel. Why not limit CO2 from air travel over land? Last I read a cross country flight dumps as much CO2 per passenger seat as a small car in one year (about 5 tons). Each person is allowed 10 tons per year PERIOD. No buying carbon credits for the rich. We all get to dump the same amount of GHG. Do you think all the twinkies in Hollywood would back up AHNOLD if that is what he proposed? I see the dependance upon oil burning technology a major threat to the US. That could be for the whole World. I am thinking we will all have electric cars soon. Then What do we need mass transit for?
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 14, 2008 8:18 am) Highways Don't Pay for Themselves (Streetsblog)
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Replying to: vchiu (Jul 14, 2008 7:25 am) No matter when a project is started it will go grossly overbudget. So one year means nicht. >I forgot global warming is not a big issue and if it was, it can't be man-made can it. Now you're seeing the light. The homeostases involved are far beyond a Hollywood actor's or tired old corrupt senator/presidential candidate loser's having figured out the balances and how one item can upset them. Don't forget water vapor as GHG more effective than CO2.
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 14, 2008 8:00 am) I think the CA HST plan will be long on promises and short of cash. If it is all built in the USA it would be good for our economy. If all we get to do is lay track that kind of sounds like the original railroads. Who would we get to do that work? Any volunteers?
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 14, 2008 8:44 am) Andy Grove of Intel was quoted over the weekend about new tech and early adopters - we can laugh at solar, wind, fusion, whatever, but 20 years ago all personal computers were good for was for BASIC games. They were expensive suckers too! |
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 14, 2008 8:27 am) As far as your article, it leaves out a big factor of all the roads we have already paid for that continue to generate revenue. Which should be spent on maintenance and future roads. A very biased poorly thought out article. Put all the gas tax out there for roads and we will see how much more it takes. Then up the tax accordingly.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 14, 2008 9:05 am) Here's the Texas link: Do Roads Pay for Themselves?
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 14, 2008 9:15 am) and about three-quarters of which goes to the state’s highway fund, where it is spent on transportation uses and some non-transportation functions of government. So how much goes for Roads and maintenance? It is the same crap they pull in CA and probably most other states. Put it in the general fund and then it gets all mixed up so they can make whatever claims they would like. Gas tax is now and has been a money maker for the states. They are not interested in cutting the mileage because the more gas you burn the more bucks they get to spend. Now take the Federal money. TX only gets back 70% of what they send to Washington DC out of the gas tax collected. Where does the other 30% go? So maybe TX should only build those roads that will pay for themselves. So what if one 15 mile section of highway does not pay for itself. What about the thousands of miles that make them a fortune? You don't see that because they are playing games with our gas tax money. What a bunch of hooey  If I wasn't so cheap I would go drive my SUV up and down the road spewing GHG. Hope it chokes Ahnold the pinhead.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 14, 2008 9:47 am) The other 30% goes to Alaska btw for all those bridges to nowhere. 
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 14, 2008 10:36 am) Compare the economy and taxes generated of an area with a lot of roads (LA?) to any area in the U.S. with nothing more than a dirt road.
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