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Automotive News & Views Are automobiles a major cause of global warming?
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Replying to: larsb (Apr 12, 2007 5:00 am)  Actually we are not off course. It must be determined if GW is a man made phenomnon or natural, before we can put the blame on the automobile. I am firmly on the side that says GW is a political tool used to gain control over the people. As was pointed out alternatives to fossil fuel powered automobiles may be even more contributory to GW. One last question. Where did they measure this temperature that has supposedly gone up? It was not in San Diego or the rest of the US. I believe this Winter is the coldest in the last 150 years or so. It is the coldest winter in my memory. It killed trees in our neighborhood that are at least 50 years old. |
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 12, 2007 6:01 am) How many of those disciples of GW in Hollywood have denounced their opulent CO2 producing lifestyle? It is all elitist propaganda. PS 56% represents the blue constituents in the state. It further shows how polarized we have become. No science involved just politics at its ugliest. |
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gary says, "I am firmly on the side that says GW is a political tool used to gain control over the people. " Whew !! Conspiracy alert !! Conspiracy alert!! Gary, please enlighten us: Whom, Praytell, is this mysterious group of people who are attempting to "gain control over us?" That's really very...........(better button my lip before the hosts whack my mole) Deny, Deny, Deny all you want. There are some fairly good and reasonable arguments that can be made against it But there is even more data supporting "GW" as you call it too. That data is not denied by thousands of educated scientists who have done the science. |
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Replying to: larsb (Apr 12, 2007 6:19 am) If GW is not a political tool. Why would a high profile politician such as Robert Kennedy Jr. come out with all these wild claims after Katrina that this disaster could have been avoided if we had signed the Kyoto Treaty? Why has Al Gore made a movie about GW? Could he be trying to get aligned for another shot at the White house? DO you think either of these very wealthy politicians have given up their contribution to GHG? I am not proclaiming or denying a change in global temperature. I would be interested to know how they came up with that information. When there is a wide disparity in scientific opinion on a subject it cannot be considered fact or a consensus. I have talked to REAL scientists from the University of PA that were studying the upper atmosphere in the Arctic. They do not make any wild claims on the cause of this possible warming trend. I think I asked this before. Which countries that have signed onto Kyoto have met the goals on cutting GHG?
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Replying to: larsb (Apr 12, 2007 6:19 am) Well, here's one group for starters: http://www.carbontax.org/
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Replying to: rorr (Apr 12, 2007 6:40 am)  It looks like a new and different approach to re-distribution of wealth.
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 12, 2007 6:37 am)  Did Robert Kennedy really say Katrina could have been avoided if we had signed onto Kyoto? Or was it something more like, "Katrina is the type of natural calamity that worsens as a result of GW, which is why we ought to be doing something about it, like signing onto Kyoto"? I honestly don't know exactly what he said, but the comment you attributed to him would be very much on the brash side, even for him. I heard today that Schwarzenegger converted one of his Hummers to run on biodiesel, and the other one to run on hydrogen. edit...isn't Carl Sagan dead?!
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 12, 2007 6:45 am) Boy, are you ever cynical. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the party most interested in "wealth re-distribution" ALSO happens to be most in favor of "carbon taxes"......
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 12, 2007 6:50 am) Yep. So is Robert Kennedy...... |
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Replying to: larsb (Apr 12, 2007 5:00 am) Thanks Larsb. And it's RFK, Jr. who's still around - big whitewater kayaker. How can you not like the guy? 
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