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#11040 of 11206 Re: Will Al ever give up the GW scam?? [Stever@Edmunds]
Aug 24, 2013 (8:11 pm)
Interview has been all over the Net.
A Union of Concerned Scientists blogger wrote Thursday the former vice president deserved kudos for his "Nobel-Peace-Prize winning efforts" in being a strong voice on climate change -- but that a piece of misinformation made its way into an interview he gave to the Washington Post.
Gore, referring to Hurricane Sandy as the type of strong storm that's fueled by climate change, told the paper “the hurricane scale used to be 1-5 and now they’re adding a 6.”
"The extreme events are more extreme," Gore said in his Post interview. "The fingerprint of man-made global warming is all over these storms and extreme weather events.”
"There are no plans by the National Hurricane Center — the federal office responsible for categorizing storms — to create a new category," she blogged, adding: "Though, it is worth noting that the rest of the interview included accurate and important information and it’s unfortunate that this blip made its way in."
She also warned that "Politicians and others can be effective communicators of climate science and guide us toward policy action, but they risk creating confusion and eroding public confidence in science when they make misrepresentative statements."
#11041 of 11206 Re: Will Al ever give up the GW scam?? [gagrice]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Aug 24, 2013 (8:20 pm)
Well, that explains the Washington Times getting all excited. But I missed all that.
#11042 of 11206 Re: Will Al ever give up the GW scam?? [Stever@Edmunds]
Aug 24, 2013 (8:20 pm)
Why should I believe what is written in a rag called THE WEEK? I don't trust anything I read anymore. EVERYTHING IN THE MEDIA AND ON THE WEB is agenda based. 99% has very little basis in fact. Most of the USA is having the mildest summer on record. South America is having the coldest winter on record. Those I assume are facts. We just experienced the shortest summer in the Arctic since when?
The GW cult is grabbing at every little shred of evidence and so are those that are skeptical. Divided we stand.
#11043 of 11206 Re: Will Al ever give up the GW scam?? [gagrice]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Aug 24, 2013 (8:33 pm)
Well, you don't have to believe The Week (just a site I found tonight): all you have to do is wait a month and see what the latest UN report says. Then you can dissect the conclusions drawn from all the studies.
#11044 of 11206 Re: Will Al ever give up the GW scam?? [gagrice]
Aug 25, 2013 (4:32 am)
Last week CNN aired a report that sea level rise "could be" 3 feet by the end of the century. They showed a map of Manhattan before and after with a large part of the perimeter under water.
I actually looked up the data. Sea level has been rising since the end of the last ice age. On average in the last 110 years it has risen 1.7mm per year. THAT RATE HAS DECLINED to 1.2mm per year over the last 7 years. That correlates to about 5 inches per century or about 14% of the claimed increase.
GW is just another excuse for more government control and to suck more money from the private sector. Their "Solution" to tax energy would have absolutely no effect on our climate but would have a huge negative effect on our economy, forcing more people to become dependent on the government...ensuring the re-election of our brilliant and caring leaders.
#11045 of 11206 Re: Will Al ever give up the GW scam?? [greg128]
Aug 25, 2013 (5:00 am)
Basically the GW scam tied to Kyoto, is a way to extort money from the rich countries and give it to the poor countries. Filtered through the corrupt World banking systems. Canada and Russia have told them to stick Kyoto where the sun don't shine. The tin pot dictators across Mexico, So America, Africa and Asia are all standing around with their hands out. They have no binding commitments to cut back on GHG. Thankfully our Congress never ratified Kyoto. Even though Kyoto is all but dead a few die hard states and countries want to continue the extortion.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-08/carbon-market-champions-undeterred-by-k- - yoto-dead-end-eu-says.html
If you happen to be stuck in a state that extorts every penny from the tax payers like CA, your only real hope is moving out. The mandates that are in place will bankrupt the state. With three good sized CA cities already bankrupt and Los Angeles hanging on by a thread, the state cannot continue to kick the debt burden down the road. One bright spot was the court bringing our stupid High Speed Rail scam to a screeching halt. Hopefully they de-fund the agency and send them all packing.
Court rules California bypassed requirements for bullet-train process
Officials failed to comply with funding and environmental reviews set in the 2008 ballot measure, the judge says in a ruling over a lawsuit aimed at stopping the project.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0817-bullet-ruling-20130817,0,4946222.st- - ory
#11046 of 11206 Re: Will Al ever give up the GW scam?? [gagrice]
Aug 25, 2013 (6:49 am)
IS A WAY TO EXTORT MONEY FROM THE RICH COUNTRIES AND GIVE IT TO THE POOR COUNTRIES.
What it really is, is a way to extort money from the poor people in a rich country and give it to the rich people in a poor country.
#11047 of 11206 Re: Will Al ever give up the GW scam?? [Stever@Edmunds]
Aug 25, 2013 (7:00 am)
As I am sure you are aware, the U.N. is the most corrupt, politicized, and wasteful org. on this earth. Of course they are behind the climate change hoax and will push to perpetuate it any way they can. I would not put any stock on anything coming out of the U.N.
In very simple terms, their agenda could be boiled down to, "No man made climate change, no paycheck for us".
#11048 of 11206 Re: Will Al ever give up the GW scam?? [greg128]
Aug 25, 2013 (7:14 am)
I have actually heard people use the argument that when water gets warmer it also expands and that this will contribute to sea level rise.
What they don't understand is that most things do expand as they heat up, but water has some peculiar properties and does just the opposite. It expands as it gets colder and freezes then contracts as it heats up.
#11049 of 11206 Re: Will Al ever give up the GW scam?? [houdini1]
Aug 25, 2013 (8:52 am)
"What they don't understand is that most things do expand as they heat up, but water has some peculiar properties and does just the opposite. It expands as it gets colder and freezes then contracts as it heats up."
That is true ONLY around the freezing point, beginning at 39 F. At any higher temperatures water expands with temperature.