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#10822 of 10918 Re: Italians fighting MM/GW [alltorque] by fintail

Jan 30, 2013 (8:08 pm)

Replying to: alltorque (Jan 30, 2013 12:50 pm)
Maybe Vesuvius can help with that again
 
A lot of Italy seems to barely be first world, not surprising there are financial shenanigans.

#10823 of 10918 Re: Italians fighting MM/GW [fintail] by steve_ HOST

Jan 30, 2013 (8:42 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Jan 30, 2013 8:08 pm)
I think it's mostly that the Mafia controls Naples.

#10824 of 10918 Killing US softly with HSRail by gagrice

Mar 03, 2013 (9:54 pm)

“‘What did Spain do with its European money, its cheap debt?’ [economist Cesar] Molinas said. “We made empty buildings and airports and high-speed trains.’ (As the Madrid banker told me, ‘The cost embedded in taking someone by high-speed rail to Galicia is so high that it would be cheaper just to give people in Galicia a free plane ticket.’)”
 
http://www.calwatchdog.com/2013/03/03/38639/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=f- acebook

#10825 of 10918 CARB victim of recession by gagrice

Mar 05, 2013 (6:57 pm)

Great Recession short-circuits CARB’s Cap and Trade auction
 
March 5, 2013
 
By Wayne Lusvardi
 
Recessions are painful, especially for those who lost their jobs. But there is one upside to less economic activity: lower levels of pollution.
 
Ironically, the Great Recession short-circuited the California Air Resources Board’s auctions for pollution permits under its new Cap and Trade program.
 
The California Air Resources Board scheduled a supplementary auction of pollution permits for March 2013. But no industries or electric utilities filed the required “intent to bid” notice by the bid guarantee deadline of Feb. 27.
 
That meant no private industries or public utilities exceeded their government-set pollution maximums and needed to “buy” extra pollution permits after CARB’s Feb. 19 Cap and Trade auction. Most industries seem to be buying pollution permits rather than installing more pollution reduction technologies, which had been a major goal of AB 32.

 
http://www.calwatchdog.com/2013/03/05/great-recession-short-circuits-carbs-cap-a- nd-trade-auction/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook
 
Cheaper to pollute and buy permits... Guess who captured the bulk of the permits. Another grand scheme shot down by the lousy economy.

#10826 of 10918 How do you hide a $100 billion boondoggle?? by gagrice

Mar 06, 2013 (8:49 am)

In the case of CA High speed rail you hire a CFO with experience.
 
“Here’s a quick quiz: What two state agencies have a long history of providing misleading and deceptive accounts of their tangled, troubled finances to the public and the Legislature? A history of depicting legitimate criticism as being ideologically driven and mendacious? A history of resisting reform and fighting to maintain a wrongheaded status quo? A history of refusing to acknowledge past fiascoes?
 
“If you said the California Public Employees’ Retirement System and the California High-Speed Rail Authority, pat yourself on the back. Given their poor records, if these agencies were looking for executive talent, one would assume they’d bring in an outsider with a strong history of oversight and independence – someone willing to stand up to the bureaucratic forces of inertia.
 
“But then that’s what the agencies would do if they were honest about their records. Instead, inexplicably, both the pension giant and bullet-train shepherd think they’re doing a great job. And so it was no surprise to learn this week that the rail authority has hired CALPERS’ acting chief financial officer, Russell Fong, as its CFO. How tidy.
 
“Expect the same management culture to continue at both agencies. Arrogance and denial: It’s the CalPERS/CHSRA way.”

 
http://www.calwatchdog.com/2013/03/06/train-agency-raids-calpers-for-exec-talent- -oy-vey/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

#10827 of 10918 chicken-and-egg by steve_ HOST

Mar 06, 2013 (9:33 am)

"Ten states currently require manufacturers to sell a progressively larger number of advanced technology vehicles between now and 2025," said Wehrman. "Together, manufacturers have to place five million of these vehicles — battery electric, plug-in hybrid electric and fuel cell electric vehicles — on the road by 2025.
 
"At the moment, however, the infrastructure simply does not exist to support these vehicles."
 
Infrastructure concerns are "out of our hands," he noted, adding "government help is needed."
 
Alt-Fuel Vehicle Infrastructure Is Stumbling Block, Honda Tells Lawmakers

#10828 of 10918 Re: chicken-and-egg [steve_] by gagrice

Mar 06, 2013 (12:59 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Mar 06, 2013 9:33 am)
Government pushed the same crap more than 20 years ago. I don't think we are that much closer to their goals. The laws of physics are still the obstacle to over come.
 
The auto industry has long objected to California's zero-emission rules, which mandate that 2% of all vehicles sold in the state in 1998 be powered by electricity. The requirement increases to 5% in 2001 and 10% in 2003.
 
The meeting with Wilson was set up by Robert M. Teeter, campaign chairman for President George Bush in the 1992 election and a Ford consultant on consumer issues. Both economic issues and auto industry problems were discussed.
 
The car makers are particularly rankled at the technology mandate--and the deadlines. They would like to use a variety of technologies--including natural gas-powered cars and hybrid vehicles that use both electric and internal-combustion engines--to meet the state's strict clean-air goals. But the zero-emission requirement can only be met today by electricity.

 
http://articles.latimes.com/1993-10-23/news/mn-48862_1_affordable-electric-car

#10829 of 10918 Re: chicken-and-egg [gagrice] by steve_ HOST

Mar 06, 2013 (1:40 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 06, 2013 12:59 pm)
They didn't like mandatory seat belts or other safety stuff either.

#10830 of 10918 Re: chicken-and-egg [steve_] by fintail

Mar 06, 2013 (2:27 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Mar 06, 2013 1:40 pm)
Of course, those don't require gigantic amounts of infrastructure that neither consumers nor governments can afford to install.

#10831 of 10918 Re: chicken-and-egg [fintail] by steve_ HOST

Mar 06, 2013 (2:59 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Mar 06, 2013 2:27 pm)
We just need to shift the subsidies a bit. (Oil Change International)
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