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Are automobiles a major cause of global warming?
10914 messages, Last post on May 19, 2013 at 8:23 PM
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#10814 of 10914 Re: Thank God it's record warmth! [steve_] by gagrice
Jan 25, 2013 (10:09 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Jan 25, 2013 7:11 am)
So what is the solution to our need or want of electricity 24/7? Nothing is close to perfect. It looks like CA is settling on Natural Gas to take up the slack when Wind and sun fails us. A link off your story reminded me of just how much we do depend on our electric utility functioning all the time. We were on vacation during this incident. http://physics.ucsd.edu/do-the-math/2011/09/power-out-people-out/
- steve_ (Jan 25, 2013 4:35 pm)
- gagrice (Jan 25, 2013 5:06 pm)
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- gagrice (Jan 25, 2013 5:06 pm)
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#10815 of 10914 Re: Thank God it's record warmth! [gagrice] by steve_ HOST
Jan 25, 2013 (4:35 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Jan 25, 2013 10:09 am)
Good link, thanks, lost another hour reading his stuff. Now you have me wondering about the batteries my off-grid friends in NM rely on. Battery storage sure is stuck in a rut (the Dreamliner lithium-ion batteries aren't lending confidence to the tech). I think it starts with conservation and relies on a lot of different tech. There's no free lunch.
The car companies are plowing ahead; there was a Peugot hybrid ICE-air car in the news the other day and BMW-Toyota are working together on composites, fuel-cells and lithium-air batteries. All the automakers are looking at ways to work together like this to spread the costs.
- gagrice (Jan 25, 2013 5:06 pm)
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#10816 of 10914 Re: Thank God it's record warmth! [steve_] by gagrice
Jan 25, 2013 (5:06 pm)
Replying to: steve_ (Jan 25, 2013 4:35 pm)
There's no free lunch. That is what I try to tell people like Rocky, that think the Green Agenda will solve all our energy problems.
So the Boeing 787 has battery problems??? Has Toyota started selling the Plugin Hybrid? I think the Nissan battery issues will be something common with Lithium batteries.
- steve_ (Jan 25, 2013 5:34 pm)
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#10817 of 10914 Re: Thank God it's record warmth! [gagrice] by steve_ HOST
Jan 25, 2013 (5:34 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Jan 25, 2013 5:06 pm)
So the Boeing 787 has battery problems??? You might say that. FAA grounds Boeing 787s to address battery fires (Yahoo)
It's even a car related story since Alan Mulally oversaw conception and early development of the Dreamliner when he was a Boeing VP.
- gagrice (Jan 25, 2013 5:56 pm)
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#10818 of 10914 Re: Thank God it's record warmth! [steve_] by gagrice
Jan 25, 2013 (5:56 pm)
Replying to: steve_ (Jan 25, 2013 5:34 pm)
He probably left when they decided to use fire prone batteries. 
Lithium batteries have more negatives than positives from where I stand. Obviously they are a financial loser. A123 has gone bankrupt more than once. We have wasted at least $249 million on that company alone. Now the Chinese own it. That means the Koreans will likely lose the Chevy Volt batteries to the Chinese.
#10819 of 10914 Italians fighting MM/GW by gagrice
Jan 30, 2013 (9:18 am)
Not a real good advertisement for mass transit. We have several bankrupt cities. Will they lose their bus service as well?NAPLES, Italy (AP) — Bus service in the southern Italian city of Naples has ground to a halt after the city transport company ran out of money for fuel.
http://www.myfoxny.com/story/20811292/bus-service-grinds-to-halt-in-naples-no-fu- el
#10820 of 10914 Re: Italians fighting MM/GW [gagrice] by alltorque
Jan 30, 2013 (12:50 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Jan 30, 2013 9:18 am)
Much as I love Italy, Naples is the one city that really needs to be taken down and left down. It appears to be a complete mess in all areas of public services. Beautiful city in a superb location but a poster child for how not to do it. This story is only surprising in that it has taken so long to happen. That, of course, presumes it is true and not just the latest round of brinkmanship by one vested interest or another.
Would I drive in Naples ? Only in a main battle tank. "What do you call a car in Naples without any dents ? Brand new, for sale".
Ciao.
- scwmcan (Jan 30, 2013 8:06 pm)
- fintail (Jan 30, 2013 8:08 pm)
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#10821 of 10914 Re: Italians fighting MM/GW [alltorque] by scwmcan
Jan 30, 2013 (8:06 pm)
Replying to: alltorque (Jan 30, 2013 12:50 pm)
I thought the cars being beat up was true for most of Italy, when I was there they seemed to be pretty crazy drivers.
#10822 of 10914 Re: Italians fighting MM/GW [alltorque] by fintail
Jan 30, 2013 (8:08 pm)
Replying to: alltorque (Jan 30, 2013 12:50 pm)
Maybe Vesuvius can help with that again A lot of Italy seems to barely be first world, not surprising there are financial shenanigans.
- steve_ (Jan 30, 2013 8:42 pm)
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#10823 of 10914 Re: Italians fighting MM/GW [fintail] by steve_ HOST
Jan 30, 2013 (8:42 pm)
Replying to: fintail (Jan 30, 2013 8:08 pm)
I think it's mostly that the Mafia controls Naples.
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